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Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:02 pm
by showa58taro
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
I’m amused that a massive conservative ploy to try and glean credibility can be seen as a way to attack anything but that objective in and of itself. Your whole point and premise is laughably flawed!

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:03 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?

You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.

again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:05 pm
by showa58taro
Also, that’s not debate, not openness, nor even intellectual honesty.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:11 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:13 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.
but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:13 pm
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
I’m amused that a massive conservative ploy to try and glean credibility can be seen as a way to attack anything but that objective in and of itself. Your whole point and premise is laughably flawed!
Where in this thread did I ever say that about this video?

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:14 pm
by Reign in Blood
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?

You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.

again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.
Being a political science student and protesting everything in every waking hour puts him at a disadvantage, I'd agree.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:15 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.
but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?
Yes... Handing down the exact same rhetoric to spew to the zombies... Does not matter their political affiliation.

The entire premise of this thread is to point out that cable news is a money game. Which clearly went over Seb's head with that failed "gotcha". He listens to John Oliver tell him it's just a massive conservative ploy and eats it up like the brainwashed idiots who watch cable news.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:16 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?

You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.

again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.
Being a political science student and protesting everything in every waking hour puts him at a disadvantage, I'd agree.
:P at least we're coming to something that could resemble an agreement.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:19 pm
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:you automatically ascribed a Conservative ploy to dupe viewers as a liberal plot
Missed this post.

Yeah, this entire thread went over your head.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:21 pm
by Jason
I guess I could've been clearer in my opening post.

Perhaps if Seb read on in the thread and didn't assume this was a left vs. right thing...

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:22 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:Why does the public get a pass on this issue? The consumers of fake news are the driving force. They allow the monetization of it. We get the news we deserve.
Because you don’t make education a priority?
I iz gonna dribble like Lebron or rap like Eminem. Who needz skool?

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:23 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.
but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?
Yes... Handing down the exact same rhetoric to spew to the zombies... Does not matter their political affiliation.

The entire premise of this thread is to point out that cable news is a money game. Which clearly went over Seb's head with that failed "gotcha".
i think we, as the "zombies" should always make at least a little bit of effort to decide for ourselves what our view on an issue actually is, and not just take the word of some public figure on what it should be.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:24 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.
but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?
Yes... Handing down the exact same rhetoric to spew to the zombies... Does not matter their political affiliation.

The entire premise of this thread is to point out that cable news is a money game. Which clearly went over Seb's head with that failed "gotcha".
i think we, as the "zombies" should always make at least a little bit of effort to decide for ourselves what our view on an issue actually is, and not just take the word of some public figure on what it should be.
How effective would that be with climate change?

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:25 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.
but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?
Yes... Handing down the exact same rhetoric to spew to the zombies... Does not matter their political affiliation.

The entire premise of this thread is to point out that cable news is a money game. Which clearly went over Seb's head with that failed "gotcha".
i think we, as the "zombies" should always make at least a little bit of effort to decide for ourselves what our view on an issue actually is, and not just take the word of some public figure on what it should be.
Yes. Nor take the word of cable news media...

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:26 pm
by Reign in Blood
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?

You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.

again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.
Being a political science student and protesting everything in every waking hour puts him at a disadvantage, I'd agree.
:P at least we're coming to something that could resemble an agreement.
Would you agree, that plenty of these kids think they are know-it-alls anyways, and he's actually welcoming to their disagreements?

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:27 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.
but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?
Yes... Handing down the exact same rhetoric to spew to the zombies... Does not matter their political affiliation.

The entire premise of this thread is to point out that cable news is a money game. Which clearly went over Seb's head with that failed "gotcha".
i think we, as the "zombies" should always make at least a little bit of effort to decide for ourselves what our view on an issue actually is, and not just take the word of some public figure on what it should be.
How effective would that be with climate change?
i don't know. are you saying that we should just blindly believe in climate change or not believe, because someone said so on the television? what are you trying to get at?

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:28 pm
by Reign in Blood
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.
but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?
Yes... Handing down the exact same rhetoric to spew to the zombies... Does not matter their political affiliation.

The entire premise of this thread is to point out that cable news is a money game. Which clearly went over Seb's head with that failed "gotcha".
i think we, as the "zombies" should always make at least a little bit of effort to decide for ourselves what our view on an issue actually is, and not just take the word of some public figure on what it should be.
How effective would that be with climate change?

It's not, Lockstep or die.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:28 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?
I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.
but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?
Yes... Handing down the exact same rhetoric to spew to the zombies... Does not matter their political affiliation.

The entire premise of this thread is to point out that cable news is a money game. Which clearly went over Seb's head with that failed "gotcha".
i think we, as the "zombies" should always make at least a little bit of effort to decide for ourselves what our view on an issue actually is, and not just take the word of some public figure on what it should be.
Yes. Nor take the word of cable news media...
the news media also consists of public figures who are presenting a viewpoint, so yes.

Re: This is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:28 pm
by Foo
Hard to argue that at this moment, the conservatives are far more willing to have dialogue while the liberals are into suppression of different ideas. It is rampant across academia, social media, and in the workplace.