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Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:43 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Is posing for a camera with your tits out so you can get money and they can sell magazines feminist or not feminist?
some feminists will denounce that. and some (almost certainly less) feminists will defend it. i'm not sure where you wanna go with this.
Just wondering. If a woman is promoted in part because she is a woman, rather than based purely on merit, is that feminism or not feminism?
i don't think there is universal consensus as to whether that would be feminist or not. are you looking for a universal lockstep consensus among all feminists? feminists are people. people have different viewpoints.
So is feminism a real thing if there is no consensus on even the most basic situations that would involve women?

How does feminism differ from simply believing in equality for the vast majority?
feminists would likely, nearly universally, argue that they are about equality. but some feminists are extremist and take it too far, or use it something to hide behind, for purposes of hate and oppression.

yes, feminism is a real thing. if it was manufactured, everyone who identified that way would walk in lockstep. they would be robotic with their viewpoints and their arguments. there would be no casting out. there would be no different ideals and justifications and disputes among feminists because it would be designed to universally perpetuate some kind of agenda. and it's not. :P

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:19 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Is posing for a camera with your tits out so you can get money and they can sell magazines feminist or not feminist?
some feminists will denounce that. and some (almost certainly less) feminists will defend it. i'm not sure where you wanna go with this.
Just wondering. If a woman is promoted in part because she is a woman, rather than based purely on merit, is that feminism or not feminism?
i don't think there is universal consensus as to whether that would be feminist or not. are you looking for a universal lockstep consensus among all feminists? feminists are people. people have different viewpoints.
So is feminism a real thing if there is no consensus on even the most basic situations that would involve women?

How does feminism differ from simply believing in equality for the vast majority?
feminists would likely, nearly universally, argue that they are about equality. but some feminists are extremist and take it too far, or use it something to hide behind, for purposes of hate and oppression.

yes, feminism is a real thing. if it was manufactured, everyone who identified that way would walk in lockstep. they would be robotic with their viewpoints and their arguments. there would be no casting out. there would be no different ideals and justifications and disputes among feminists because it would be designed to universally perpetuate some kind of agenda. and it's not. :P
You identify as a feminist, right?

Explain how your version is different than seeking equality for all.

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:22 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Is posing for a camera with your tits out so you can get money and they can sell magazines feminist or not feminist?
some feminists will denounce that. and some (almost certainly less) feminists will defend it. i'm not sure where you wanna go with this.
Just wondering. If a woman is promoted in part because she is a woman, rather than based purely on merit, is that feminism or not feminism?
i don't think there is universal consensus as to whether that would be feminist or not. are you looking for a universal lockstep consensus among all feminists? feminists are people. people have different viewpoints.
So is feminism a real thing if there is no consensus on even the most basic situations that would involve women?

How does feminism differ from simply believing in equality for the vast majority?
feminists would likely, nearly universally, argue that they are about equality. but some feminists are extremist and take it too far, or use it something to hide behind, for purposes of hate and oppression.

yes, feminism is a real thing. if it was manufactured, everyone who identified that way would walk in lockstep. they would be robotic with their viewpoints and their arguments. there would be no casting out. there would be no different ideals and justifications and disputes among feminists because it would be designed to universally perpetuate some kind of agenda. and it's not. :P
You identify as a feminist, right?

Explain how your version is different than seeking equality for all.
i do. in my opinion, the outcome should be equality for all.

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:29 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Is posing for a camera with your tits out so you can get money and they can sell magazines feminist or not feminist?
some feminists will denounce that. and some (almost certainly less) feminists will defend it. i'm not sure where you wanna go with this.
Just wondering. If a woman is promoted in part because she is a woman, rather than based purely on merit, is that feminism or not feminism?
i don't think there is universal consensus as to whether that would be feminist or not. are you looking for a universal lockstep consensus among all feminists? feminists are people. people have different viewpoints.
So is feminism a real thing if there is no consensus on even the most basic situations that would involve women?

How does feminism differ from simply believing in equality for the vast majority?
feminists would likely, nearly universally, argue that they are about equality. but some feminists are extremist and take it too far, or use it something to hide behind, for purposes of hate and oppression.

yes, feminism is a real thing. if it was manufactured, everyone who identified that way would walk in lockstep. they would be robotic with their viewpoints and their arguments. there would be no casting out. there would be no different ideals and justifications and disputes among feminists because it would be designed to universally perpetuate some kind of agenda. and it's not. :P
You identify as a feminist, right?

Explain how your version is different than seeking equality for all.
i do. in my opinion, the outcome should be equality for all.
So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:58 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote: So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner. :P

it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:57 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner. :P

it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
I am a feminist too! ^5

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:59 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner. :P

it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
I am a feminist too! ^5
here. i thought you wanted to have a genuine discussion. my mistake. :P

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:29 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner. :P

it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
I am a feminist too! ^5
here. i thought you wanted to have a genuine discussion. my mistake. :P
I want women to be treated equal. Is that not feminist?

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:31 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner. :P

it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
I am a feminist too! ^5
here. i thought you wanted to have a genuine discussion. my mistake. :P
I want women to be treated equal. Is that not feminist?
it's feminist. it's also identity politics and i know you don't agree with movements based around that.

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:31 pm
by Jason
Equality can be a scary thing.





Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:34 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:Equality can be a scary thing.




if someone slaps you, you have every right to slap them back. woman or not.

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:35 pm
by Jason
My man, Zombs.

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Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:42 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:laci green, she dared to talk to more conservative youtubers
That sort of proves my point. :p
have you seen her videos at all though? she's not conservative. extremists are just psycho. and that goes for extreme feminists too.
I have only seen clips of stupid shit she's said on video.
Dude, some of it you gotta give a go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83lo7OqruJI

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:12 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:laci green, she dared to talk to more conservative youtubers
That sort of proves my point. :p
have you seen her videos at all though? she's not conservative. extremists are just psycho. and that goes for extreme feminists too.
I have only seen clips of stupid shit she's said on video.
Dude, some of it you gotta give a go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83lo7OqruJI
of course, it had to be anal... :P

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:17 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:laci green, she dared to talk to more conservative youtubers
That sort of proves my point. :p
have you seen her videos at all though? she's not conservative. extremists are just psycho. and that goes for extreme feminists too.
I have only seen clips of stupid shit she's said on video.
Dude, some of it you gotta give a go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83lo7OqruJI


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Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:26 pm
by Jmac Attack
Ain't nothing going near my butt! I don't even like wiping it, lol.

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:25 am
by showa58taro
Solid infomercial for anal. Who is she and why is Reign linking to her butt stuff?

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:27 am
by showa58taro
Jmac Attack wrote:Ain't nothing going near my butt! I don't even like wiping it, lol.
This is a side you don't see often.

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:55 am
by zombie
showa58taro wrote:Solid infomercial for anal. Who is she and why is Reign linking to her butt stuff?
she's a youtuber feminist. and i'll let reign speak for himself. :P

Re: Hello, my name is: Feminism

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:05 am
by Reign in Blood
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Solid infomercial for anal. Who is she and why is Reign linking to her butt stuff?
she's a youtuber feminist. and i'll let reign speak for himself. :P
Sure as hell beats any political shit she spews out of her ass!