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Tiggnutz wrote:I believe the left will always grab low hanging fruit and jingle the keys to distract the populous from reality with the goal of never improving anything but keeping power. The reason I'm a republican not a democrat. I would be an independent but the Republicans are a sorry batch and I feel like my vote on picking them is important

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Tiggnutz wrote:This white privilege bullshit trying to blame everything fucked up on a generalization of a race( actually funny for the we hate racism wing) is part of the reason there's a Trump in the White House.

there should be a push away from generalizing, when something happens that you don't like. agreed.

It does nothing but corner people and to be honest cause animosity that could morph into racism. Not the right way to get people to talk shit out. Counterproductive

if it's going to change, it probably needs to come first from the most visible, most powerful / public figures in which ever community, and across the board.

Sheep being led to the slaughter by the wolves.

explain that better? should we not trust the people in positions of power? what is your position with this?

When are we going to learn that the power is in us all, not in who we follow?

Society has this weird thing with following. Lead your life and earn respect. Lead by example, not by rhetoric. Everyone is an internet hero, and a real world loser.

lead by example implies that people are following your example.

but i am all for not trusting public figures and calling them on their shit. you frown on that though. *shrug*

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Nope. You don't need followers to do the right thing.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
Nope. You don't need followers to do the right thing.

and i never said that. if you don't have people following you, there is no leading as you mentioned. that was my point.

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Foo wrote:
Nope. You don't need followers to do the right thing.

and i never said that. if you don't have people following you, there is no leading as you mentioned. that was my point.

You have to accomplish something before people will follow. I am not talking of just celebrity, either. Being the best possible version of you is an accomplishment.

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Foo wrote:
Nope. You don't need followers to do the right thing.

and i never said that. if you don't have people following you, there is no leading as you mentioned. that was my point.

You have to accomplish something before people will follow. I am not talking of just celebrity, either. Being the best possible version of you is an accomplishment.

uh huh. celebrity or public exposure is only one kind of influence. but it is a larger influence than the average person has, people have always followed and been influenced by public figures of one kind or another and it's disingenous to pretend otherwise.

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Stupid people following false prophets. Again, that is the problem. Celebrity and authority have replaced parents. When there are parents around, half the time they are worried about what bar they are going to on Friday night or getting drunk/high instead of being an example for their kids.

Foo wrote:They only have the influence they are given by the sheep.

Foo wrote:Stupid people following false prophets. Again, that is the problem. Celebrity and authority have replaced parents. When there are parents around, half the time they are worried about what bar they are going to on Friday night or getting drunk/high instead of being an example for their kids.

Jason wrote:Shut up, ungrateful colonial.

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Shut up, ungrateful colonial.

It’s a shit catchphrase made more hollow by a tin pot demagogue who can’t even bring himself to respond to a humanitarian crisis.

Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Shut up, ungrateful colonial.

It’s a shit catchphrase made more hollow by a tin pot demagogue who can’t even bring himself to respond to a humanitarian crisis.

If Trump somehow stopped the shooter himself you'd still give him shit, and I'm not joking about this. Forgive me for taking your opinion of Trump with a grain of salt. All of your opinions. Weird how all of a sudden everyone hates the guy and calls him racist the minute he runs for president.

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Jason wrote:

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Jason wrote:Shut up, ungrateful colonial.

It’s a shit catchphrase made more hollow by a tin pot demagogue who can’t even bring himself to respond to a humanitarian crisis.

If Trump somehow stopped the shooter himself you'd still give him shit, and I'm not joking about this. Forgive me for taking your opinion of Trump with a grain of salt. All of your opinions. Weird how all of a sudden everyone hates the guy and calls him racist the minute he runs for president.

Same to you sir. Trump could literally BE the shooter and you guys would justify his honest use of the second amendment. Every shit thing he does gets a pass, every minor “guess that wasn’t shit” gets paraded like a triumph.

Jmac Attack wrote:Conservatives are obsessed with celebrities too. Umm....Trump is a reality star and socialite. And now y'all love you some Kid Rock. And don't forget Reagan was a movie star. But yeah.