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Foo wrote:
Yes, because I am too dumb to work the system and chose a life of working to grow businesses. Unfortunately I have chosen the path of being a single male who pays in far more than I consume.

well, here's hoping that all of those losers who don't live their lives in the way that you do are punished for it.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
Yes, because I am too dumb to work the system and chose a life of working to grow businesses. Unfortunately I have chosen the path of being a single male who pays in far more than I consume.

well, here's hoping that all of those losers who don't live their lives in the way that you do are punished for it.

Do you think removing a parasite from its host is punishing the parasite?

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
Yes, because I am too dumb to work the system and chose a life of working to grow businesses. Unfortunately I have chosen the path of being a single male who pays in far more than I consume.

well, here's hoping that all of those losers who don't live their lives in the way that you do are punished for it.

Do you think removing a parasite from its host is punishing the parasite?

i don't think that doing a drug makes you a parasite.

Foo wrote:
Yes, because I am too dumb to work the system and chose a life of working to grow businesses. Unfortunately I have chosen the path of being a single male who pays in far more than I consume.

Your fiancée may disagree with that one.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
Yes, because I am too dumb to work the system and chose a life of working to grow businesses. Unfortunately I have chosen the path of being a single male who pays in far more than I consume.

well, here's hoping that all of those losers who don't live their lives in the way that you do are punished for it.

Do you think removing a parasite from its host is punishing the parasite?

i don't think that doing a drug makes you a parasite.

The parasitic part is when they leech off of society.

Again, most of the users do not realize they are actually abusers.

Foo wrote: The parasitic part is when they leech off of society.

Again, most of the users do not realize they are actually abusers.

if they are "leeching", and they don't at least try to improve their situation, then i would say they're parasites.

how do you determine who is an abuser and who isn't? how are you to know how many are, and aren't? it is a nice slogan though.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: The parasitic part is when they leech off of society.

Again, most of the users do not realize they are actually abusers.

if they are "leeching", and they don't at least try to improve their situation, then i would say they're parasites.

how do you determine who is an abuser and who isn't? how are you to know how many are, and aren't? it is a nice slogan though.

Simple, when you do something in the face of consequences. When you use it as a means of escape. One would hope people would innately know that using mood altering drugs beyond a rare occasion points to a problem.

It is the same stupid logic being re-employed from the past where people would drink to "calm their nerves".

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: The parasitic part is when they leech off of society.

Again, most of the users do not realize they are actually abusers.

if they are "leeching", and they don't at least try to improve their situation, then i would say they're parasites.

how do you determine who is an abuser and who isn't? how are you to know how many are, and aren't? it is a nice slogan though.

Simple, when you do something in the face of consequences. When you use it as a means of escape. One would hope people would innately know that using mood altering drugs beyond a rare occasion points to a problem.

It is the same stupid logic being re-employed from the past where people would drink to "calm their nerves".

using it as a means of escape? is taking a tylenol to help with a headache also abuse, in your estimation?

what consequence are they doing it in the face of? unless you mean just about it being illegal, then fair enough, i guess.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: The parasitic part is when they leech off of society.

Again, most of the users do not realize they are actually abusers.

if they are "leeching", and they don't at least try to improve their situation, then i would say they're parasites.

how do you determine who is an abuser and who isn't? how are you to know how many are, and aren't? it is a nice slogan though.

Simple, when you do something in the face of consequences. When you use it as a means of escape. One would hope people would innately know that using mood altering drugs beyond a rare occasion points to a problem.

It is the same stupid logic being re-employed from the past where people would drink to "calm their nerves".

using it as a means of escape? is taking a tylenol to help with a headache also abuse, in your estimation?

what consequence are they doing it in the face of? unless you mean just about it being illegal, then fair enough, i guess.

Do you understand the difference between heroin and a blood thinner? Why do you think people abuse painkillers, mood alterers, and psychotropic drugs at a very high rate but not blood thinners, cholesterol lowerers, and vitamins?

Any time people are high they are losing opportunity. It is lost time of clear thinking with friends, family, and work. The pursuit and defense of drugs that cloud the mind is a waste of precious life.

Man, I just need some whiskey to calm down. <--- rarely ends well

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: The parasitic part is when they leech off of society.

Again, most of the users do not realize they are actually abusers.

if they are "leeching", and they don't at least try to improve their situation, then i would say they're parasites.

how do you determine who is an abuser and who isn't? how are you to know how many are, and aren't? it is a nice slogan though.

Simple, when you do something in the face of consequences. When you use it as a means of escape. One would hope people would innately know that using mood altering drugs beyond a rare occasion points to a problem.

It is the same stupid logic being re-employed from the past where people would drink to "calm their nerves".

using it as a means of escape? is taking a tylenol to help with a headache also abuse, in your estimation?

what consequence are they doing it in the face of? unless you mean just about it being illegal, then fair enough, i guess.

Do you understand the difference between heroin and a blood thinner? Why do you think people abuse painkillers, mood alterers, and psychotropic drugs at a very high rate but not blood thinners, cholesterol lowerers, and vitamins?

Any time people are high they are losing opportunity. It is lost time of clear thinking with friends, family, and work. The pursuit and defense of drugs that cloud the mind is a waste of precious life.

i know there is a difference. i was wanting to understand your bit about "means of escape".

and now even the defense of drugs is a waste of life?

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote: The parasitic part is when they leech off of society.

Again, most of the users do not realize they are actually abusers.

if they are "leeching", and they don't at least try to improve their situation, then i would say they're parasites.

how do you determine who is an abuser and who isn't? how are you to know how many are, and aren't? it is a nice slogan though.

Simple, when you do something in the face of consequences. When you use it as a means of escape. One would hope people would innately know that using mood altering drugs beyond a rare occasion points to a problem.

It is the same stupid logic being re-employed from the past where people would drink to "calm their nerves".

using it as a means of escape? is taking a tylenol to help with a headache also abuse, in your estimation?

what consequence are they doing it in the face of? unless you mean just about it being illegal, then fair enough, i guess.

Do you understand the difference between heroin and a blood thinner? Why do you think people abuse painkillers, mood alterers, and psychotropic drugs at a very high rate but not blood thinners, cholesterol lowerers, and vitamins?

Any time people are high they are losing opportunity. It is lost time of clear thinking with friends, family, and work. The pursuit and defense of drugs that cloud the mind is a waste of precious life.

i know there is a difference. i was wanting to understand your bit about "means of escape".

and now even the defense of drugs is a waste of life?

You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

Foo wrote:
You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

hmm... so sex is a waste of life. then?

i believe that adults can make their own decisions as to how to live their life, what to take into themselves... so long as they don't harm someone else, or they don't try to force their choice / lifestyle onto someone else.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

hmm... so sex is a waste of life. then?

i believe that adults can make their own decisions as to how to live their life, what to take into themselves... so long as they don't harm someone else, or they don't try to force their choice / lifestyle onto someone else.

Are they inflicting harm on society when society is forced to subsidize their lives, because their choices fucked them up?

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

hmm... so sex is a waste of life. then?

i believe that adults can make their own decisions as to how to live their life, what to take into themselves... so long as they don't harm someone else, or they don't try to force their choice / lifestyle onto someone else.

Are they inflicting harm on society when society is forced to subsidize their lives, because their choices fucked them up?

i guess so, as much as anyone else. there are many choices made that can fuck a person up. should we all live like monks?

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

hmm... so sex is a waste of life. then?

i believe that adults can make their own decisions as to how to live their life, what to take into themselves... so long as they don't harm someone else, or they don't try to force their choice / lifestyle onto someone else.

Are they inflicting harm on society when society is forced to subsidize their lives, because their choices fucked them up?

i guess so, as much as anyone else. there are many choices made that can fuck a person up. should we all live like monks?

Everyone should live with the top priority of supporting them and their family before anything else comes into the picture. Substance abuse, laziness, and excuse making are rampant.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

hmm... so sex is a waste of life. then?

i believe that adults can make their own decisions as to how to live their life, what to take into themselves... so long as they don't harm someone else, or they don't try to force their choice / lifestyle onto someone else.

Are they inflicting harm on society when society is forced to subsidize their lives, because their choices fucked them up?

i guess so, as much as anyone else. there are many choices made that can fuck a person up. should we all live like monks?

Everyone should live with the top priority of supporting them and their family before anything else comes into the picture. Substance abuse, laziness, and excuse making are rampant.

agreed. people should do that. but that does in no way mean that you have to live like a monk.

let me ask are you looking for people to be responsible, or looking for taking things away that could potentially make them not responsible? cause this whole argument very much seems like the second.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

hmm... so sex is a waste of life. then?

i believe that adults can make their own decisions as to how to live their life, what to take into themselves... so long as they don't harm someone else, or they don't try to force their choice / lifestyle onto someone else.

Are they inflicting harm on society when society is forced to subsidize their lives, because their choices fucked them up?

i guess so, as much as anyone else. there are many choices made that can fuck a person up. should we all live like monks?

Everyone should live with the top priority of supporting them and their family before anything else comes into the picture. Substance abuse, laziness, and excuse making are rampant.

agreed. people should do that. but that does in no way mean that you have to live like a monk.

let me ask are you looking for people to be responsible, or looking for taking things away that could potentially make them not responsible? cause this whole argument very much seems like the second.

Looking for people to be responsible. They can have all the drugs they want, but get rid of welfare, food stamps, disability, and unemployment.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

hmm... so sex is a waste of life. then?

i believe that adults can make their own decisions as to how to live their life, what to take into themselves... so long as they don't harm someone else, or they don't try to force their choice / lifestyle onto someone else.

Are they inflicting harm on society when society is forced to subsidize their lives, because their choices fucked them up?

i guess so, as much as anyone else. there are many choices made that can fuck a person up. should we all live like monks?

Everyone should live with the top priority of supporting them and their family before anything else comes into the picture. Substance abuse, laziness, and excuse making are rampant.

agreed. people should do that. but that does in no way mean that you have to live like a monk.

let me ask are you looking for people to be responsible, or looking for taking things away that could potentially make them not responsible? cause this whole argument very much seems like the second.

Looking for people to be responsible. They can have all the drugs they want, but get rid of welfare, food stamps, disability, and unemployment.

i say no to that too. those are good programs for people in need. (like jason, if he could get it) but just make it less abuse-able.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
You know anyone who obsesses over Tylenol? Know anyone who wears a Tylenol tablet on a hat or shirt? Any Tylenol festivals? Anyone who make Tylenol part of their identity? Anyone who really looks forward to settling down later with Tylenol?

hmm... so sex is a waste of life. then?

i believe that adults can make their own decisions as to how to live their life, what to take into themselves... so long as they don't harm someone else, or they don't try to force their choice / lifestyle onto someone else.

Are they inflicting harm on society when society is forced to subsidize their lives, because their choices fucked them up?

i guess so, as much as anyone else. there are many choices made that can fuck a person up. should we all live like monks?

Everyone should live with the top priority of supporting them and their family before anything else comes into the picture. Substance abuse, laziness, and excuse making are rampant.

agreed. people should do that. but that does in no way mean that you have to live like a monk.

let me ask are you looking for people to be responsible, or looking for taking things away that could potentially make them not responsible? cause this whole argument very much seems like the second.

Looking for people to be responsible. They can have all the drugs they want, but get rid of welfare, food stamps, disability, and unemployment.

i say no to that too. those are good programs for people in need. (like jason, if he could get it) but just make it less abuse-able.

You can't be a drug user and a moocher. You must choose one!!!