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Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:30 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:28 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:25 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:23 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:15 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:10 pmno one batted an eye? he was dogged for that all over the place. and then he was kicked out of a second term run.

No one on the left batted an eye. They claimed he had a stutter (lol) and would never engage in the idea that he was an establishment plant and used as a puppet. The dems have not had a free and fair election presidential primary in at least 3 straight election cycles. And Trump is corrupt? Make it make sense.

Who do you think “the left” is? DNC shills are not the left.

How should I know? They don't even know what gender they are.

Super sick burn there, but yeah, DNC shills are not “the left”. Let’s strive to be a bit more accurate with terminology.

So they must be centrist? Because they're certainly not on the right.

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:31 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:24 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:21 pm Exactly. He's not in office yet.

Do you approve of any of those?

i would approve of the jfk stuff being released.

You don't think peace in Russia and Ukraine would be cool?

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:31 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:24 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:21 pm Exactly. He's not in office yet.

Do you approve of any of those?

i would approve of the jfk stuff being released.

You don't think peace in Russia and Ukraine would be cool?

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:31 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:30 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:28 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:25 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:23 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:15 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:10 pmno one batted an eye? he was dogged for that all over the place. and then he was kicked out of a second term run.

No one on the left batted an eye. They claimed he had a stutter (lol) and would never engage in the idea that he was an establishment plant and used as a puppet. The dems have not had a free and fair election presidential primary in at least 3 straight election cycles. And Trump is corrupt? Make it make sense.

Who do you think “the left” is? DNC shills are not the left.

How should I know? They don't even know what gender they are.

Super sick burn there, but yeah, DNC shills are not “the left”. Let’s strive to be a bit more accurate with terminology.

So they must be centrist? Because they're certainly not on the right.

Correct.

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:33 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:31 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:24 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:21 pm Exactly. He's not in office yet.

Do you approve of any of those?

i would approve of the jfk stuff being released.

You don't think peace in Russia and Ukraine would be cool?

i don't think it's gonna be peace. i think it's gonna be surrender. and then russia moves onto the next conquest.

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:33 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:31 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:24 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:21 pm Exactly. He's not in office yet.

Do you approve of any of those?

i would approve of the jfk stuff being released.

You don't think peace in Russia and Ukraine would be cool?

Do you think there was peace before 2022?

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:36 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:31 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:30 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:28 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:25 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:23 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:15 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:10 pmno one batted an eye? he was dogged for that all over the place. and then he was kicked out of a second term run.

No one on the left batted an eye. They claimed he had a stutter (lol) and would never engage in the idea that he was an establishment plant and used as a puppet. The dems have not had a free and fair election presidential primary in at least 3 straight election cycles. And Trump is corrupt? Make it make sense.

Who do you think “the left” is? DNC shills are not the left.

How should I know? They don't even know what gender they are.

Super sick burn there, but yeah, DNC shills are not “the left”. Let’s strive to be a bit more accurate with terminology.

So they must be centrist? Because they're certainly not on the right.

Correct.

I see them as being on the left while the purple haired Bernie socialists are on the far left.

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:36 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:33 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:31 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:24 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:21 pm Exactly. He's not in office yet.

Do you approve of any of those?

i would approve of the jfk stuff being released.

You don't think peace in Russia and Ukraine would be cool?

Do you think there was peace before 2022?

There wasn't war, that's for sure.

Tiggnutz wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:36 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:33 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:31 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:24 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:21 pm Exactly. He's not in office yet.

Do you approve of any of those?

i would approve of the jfk stuff being released.

You don't think peace in Russia and Ukraine would be cool?

i don't think it's gonna be peace. i think it's gonna be surrender. and then russia moves onto the next conquest.

Russia is spent I can't see them moving on to anything

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:42 pm I’m skeptical of any further Russian conquest but eastern Ukraine is not going to stop being the war zone it has been for ten years.

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:43 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:42 pm I’m skeptical of any further Russian conquest but eastern Ukraine is not going to stop being the war zone it has been for ten years.

do you think they have no intention, or is it just about lack of ability?

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:47 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:43 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:42 pm I’m skeptical of any further Russian conquest but eastern Ukraine is not going to stop being the war zone it has been for ten years.

do you think they have no intention, or is it just about lack of ability?

Ability for sure. I have no idea about their intention. I haven’t found the arguments from the people who are so sure about it very convincing though. They usually boil down to “Hitler didn’t stop and Putin is also bad”. It’s pretty reductive.

There’s no doubt Putin wants to influence and weaken Western Europe though.

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:49 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:47 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:43 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:42 pm I’m skeptical of any further Russian conquest but eastern Ukraine is not going to stop being the war zone it has been for ten years.

do you think they have no intention, or is it just about lack of ability?

Ability for sure. I have no idea about their intention. I haven’t found the arguments from the people who are so sure about it very convincing though. They usually boil down to “Hitler didn’t stop and Putin is also bad”. It’s pretty reductive.

There’s no doubt Putin wants to influence and weaken Western Europe though.

if it is just about drawing the comparison with nothing to back it up, then i would be skeptical too.

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:52 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:49 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:47 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:43 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:42 pm I’m skeptical of any further Russian conquest but eastern Ukraine is not going to stop being the war zone it has been for ten years.

do you think they have no intention, or is it just about lack of ability?

Ability for sure. I have no idea about their intention. I haven’t found the arguments from the people who are so sure about it very convincing though. They usually boil down to “Hitler didn’t stop and Putin is also bad”. It’s pretty reductive.

There’s no doubt Putin wants to influence and weaken Western Europe though.

if it is just about drawing the comparison with nothing to back it up, then i would be skeptical too.

I have no lean, I just find the arguments weak. What has convinced you?

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:58 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:52 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:49 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:47 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:43 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:42 pm I’m skeptical of any further Russian conquest but eastern Ukraine is not going to stop being the war zone it has been for ten years.

do you think they have no intention, or is it just about lack of ability?

Ability for sure. I have no idea about their intention. I haven’t found the arguments from the people who are so sure about it very convincing though. They usually boil down to “Hitler didn’t stop and Putin is also bad”. It’s pretty reductive.

There’s no doubt Putin wants to influence and weaken Western Europe though.

if it is just about drawing the comparison with nothing to back it up, then i would be skeptical too.

I have no lean, I just find the arguments weak. What has convinced you?

i've heard from sources that he has stated his goal to re-claim the soviet territories. but that is obviously secondhand, so it could be lies or mischaracterization. whatever.

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:01 pm
It doesn’t benefit the Kremlin to put that information out there so I would be pretty skeptical that this isn’t coming from US intelligence.

zombie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:09 pm

Headhunter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:01 pm
It doesn’t benefit the Kremlin to put that information out there so I would be pretty skeptical that this isn’t coming from US intelligence.

fair point. either way, there will be no peace for ukraine, as i want it to be.