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While I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
are you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 amWhile I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
As in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 amare you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 amWhile I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
so, he intended to implement that, but it was not actually put into use. fair. it has been discussed and intended but never used in practice, based on what i'm seeing.Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:02 amAs in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 amare you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 amWhile I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
I don’t know if it was intended but it was discussed by him back then. I’m trying to remember the name of the book I read this in but anyway. I thought you’d find that interesting.zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:06 amso, he intended to implement that, but it was not actually put into use. fair. it has been discussed and intended but never used in practice, based on what i'm seeing.Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:02 amAs in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 amare you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 amWhile I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
i do find it interesting to discuss. kind of a what may have been or could have been kind of thing. political history could be nice to discuss and explore here, definitely.Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:10 amI don’t know if it was intended but it was discussed by him back then. I’m trying to remember the name of the book I read this in but anyway. I thought you’d find that interesting.zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:06 amso, he intended to implement that, but it was not actually put into use. fair. it has been discussed and intended but never used in practice, based on what i'm seeing.Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:02 amAs in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 amare you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 amWhile I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
My guess is that others argued against it because it didn’t work out well for the Romans lol
How dope would it have been to have Trump and Vince McMahon running the country during his first term? Ya know before the whole dropping a deuce on a poor girl's head stuff. So dope!zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:13 ami do find it interesting to discuss. kind of a what may have been or could have been kind of thing. political history could be nice to discuss and explore here, definitely.Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:10 amI don’t know if it was intended but it was discussed by him back then. I’m trying to remember the name of the book I read this in but anyway. I thought you’d find that interesting.zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:06 amso, he intended to implement that, but it was not actually put into use. fair. it has been discussed and intended but never used in practice, based on what i'm seeing.Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:02 amAs in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 amare you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 amWhile I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
My guess is that others argued against it because it didn’t work out well for the Romans lol
i would say that vince mcmahon doesn't have any experience to be president. but that doesn't seem to be a concern anymore.Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:16 am
How dope would it have been to have Trump and Vince McMahon running the country during his first term? Ya know before the whole dropping a deuce on a poor girl's head stuff. So dope!
i guess it could be interesting to think about that. but it doesn't seem so good, from my perspective.He's only auditing government agencies. Trump is directing him where to audit and doing all the executive orders. Trump has done more in his first three weeks than any president in my lifetime by an absolute mile and the left is trying to create a narrative that Elon is the president. It's weird.
he has been busy. they both have.Jason wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:56 pmHe's only auditing government agencies. Trump is directing him where to audit and doing all the executive orders. Trump has done more in his first three weeks than any president in my lifetime by an absolute mile and the left is trying to create a narrative that Elon is the president. It's weird.
