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Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:37 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:More special teams coachs should get opportunities. They check so many boxes. Deal with game management. Work with players at almost all positions. Have to be great motivators.
Dave Toub needs a head coaching job.
Agreed. They are asked to do the most with the least. It is incredibly detail oriented and failures are magnified.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:46 pm
by Headhunter
They don't have big egos by nature either. The biases of offensive or defensive gurus often hurt the bottom line and cause locker room problems.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:47 pm
by Jason
Foo wrote:Jason wrote:Shortage of head coaches. If the players dig him and there isn't shit available, not much you can do but give him another year and hope Jon Gruden returns.
I never believed in the coaching shortage. There is no coaching shortage, there is a shortage of coaches you can sell to people. It is kinda amazing to me how much teams focus on that while not giving a shit what the fans think 90% of the time.
They get caught up in hiring the hot guy this year, instead of looking for the hot guy last year, or tow years ago, or next year. Or someone who is a great coach, but not in a great position. Both Andy Reid and Jon Harbaugh had to basically pad their resumes to become head coaches. Bill Belichick did not suddenly become stupid his last year in Cleveland.
I'm not saying there is a shortage in availability, there is just a shortage in quality. How many good head coaches are there in this league? 10? 20 max?
Hard to come by.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:54 pm
by Headhunter
There is no shortage of quality coaches out there. It's just an inefficient market with fan interest hanging overhead.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:00 pm
by Headhunter
Oklahoma's offense this year is the best I've ever seen in all my years watching college footnall. Best O-line, QB and receiving corps in the country.
Since Josh Rosen won't make it to #5, would love for Denver to pick Baker Mayfield. Jeff Garcia with a bigger arm and more swagger.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:02 pm
by Reign in Blood
More Swagger than Jeff Garcia? Fucking sold.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:14 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:Foo wrote:Jason wrote:Shortage of head coaches. If the players dig him and there isn't shit available, not much you can do but give him another year and hope Jon Gruden returns.
I never believed in the coaching shortage. There is no coaching shortage, there is a shortage of coaches you can sell to people. It is kinda amazing to me how much teams focus on that while not giving a shit what the fans think 90% of the time.
They get caught up in hiring the hot guy this year, instead of looking for the hot guy last year, or tow years ago, or next year. Or someone who is a great coach, but not in a great position. Both Andy Reid and Jon Harbaugh had to basically pad their resumes to become head coaches. Bill Belichick did not suddenly become stupid his last year in Cleveland.
I'm not saying there is a shortage in availability, there is just a shortage in quality. How many good head coaches are there in this league? 10? 20 max?
Hard to come by.
Everyone can't be a winner. In reality, almost every single one is good. Good can look great in the right circumstances or not so good in bad circumstances. Put Peyton Manning of 5 years ago on the Broncos this year, and I guarantee Vance Joseph looks a whole lot better. One player, and a guy goes from borderline blowing his only chance to being entrenched.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:23 pm
by Headhunter
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:41 pm
by Jmac Attack
Man.....y u gotta post that shit?
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:45 pm
by Headhunter
Haha sorry my man. It was fair play when the Buckeyes sang Carmen Ohio in Norman last year.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:51 pm
by Jmac Attack
Headhunter wrote:Haha sorry my man. It was fair play when the Buckeyes sang Carmen Ohio in Norman last year.
This is true. I will allow it.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:07 pm
by Jason
Anyone Denver gets at QB will be dead if they don't fix the line.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:24 pm
by Headhunter
This Rose Bowl >>>
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:33 pm
by Foo
Using two first round picks in three years on QBs has to be pretty rare.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:36 pm
by Jason
I bet Cleveland uses their #1 and #4 overall picks on QBs to be safe.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:56 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Using two first round picks in three years on QBs has to be pretty rare.
Thanks John.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:00 pm
by Reign in Blood
Would be okay if they didn't suck!
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:21 pm
by Headhunter
What a fuckin' game. Oklahoma :cry:
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:22 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Using two first round picks in three years on QBs has to be pretty rare.
Thanks John.
Is there a consensus that he has given up on Lynch to the point where he would go QB again? It really is a defining moment.
Re: NFL 2017 season
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:29 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Using two first round picks in three years on QBs has to be pretty rare.
Thanks John.
Is there a consensus that he has given up on Lynch to the point where he would go QB again? It really is a defining moment.
Oh yeah. Paxton is complete garbage. There's no hope there.
