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I think the Gruden contract is good for everyone. Obviously they are familiar and comfortable with each other, so why not commit to a stable and long term agreement? Makes far more sense to me than many of these short term deals that just force short term thinking. As a key figure in a billion dollar competitive business, a short term commitment has never made sense to me.

Foo wrote:I think the Gruden contract is good for everyone. Obviously they are familiar and comfortable with each other, so why not commit to a stable and long term agreement? Makes far more sense to me than many of these short term deals that just force short term thinking. As a key figure in a billion dollar competitive business, a short term commitment has never made sense to me.

Nah nobody will justify a 10 year contract for a coach to me. When he's 8-8 or worse for a few years and the base knows he won't be replaced is just bad business. Gruden is a cool name but it's stupid. I remember him crying Manziel wasn't being drafted early in the first round.

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Foo wrote:I think the Gruden contract is good for everyone. Obviously they are familiar and comfortable with each other, so why not commit to a stable and long term agreement? Makes far more sense to me than many of these short term deals that just force short term thinking. As a key figure in a billion dollar competitive business, a short term commitment has never made sense to me.

Nah nobody will justify a 10 year contract for a coach to me. When he's 8-8 or worse for a few years and the base knows he won't be replaced is just bad business. Gruden is a cool name but it's stupid. I remember him crying Manziel wasn't being drafted early in the first round.

It is not like the position is based on athletic ability. Mark Davis and Gruden know each other, Gruden has a track record. I think if you believe enough in him to hire him, commitment is good all around. The coaching carousel has always been silly to me.

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Tiggnutz wrote:

Foo wrote:I think the Gruden contract is good for everyone. Obviously they are familiar and comfortable with each other, so why not commit to a stable and long term agreement? Makes far more sense to me than many of these short term deals that just force short term thinking. As a key figure in a billion dollar competitive business, a short term commitment has never made sense to me.

Nah nobody will justify a 10 year contract for a coach to me. When he's 8-8 or worse for a few years and the base knows he won't be replaced is just bad business. Gruden is a cool name but it's stupid. I remember him crying Manziel wasn't being drafted early in the first round.

It is not like the position is based on athletic ability. Mark Davis and Gruden know each other, Gruden has a track record. I think if you believe enough in him to hire him, commitment is good all around. The coaching carousel has always been silly to me.

I believe this is a Foo Devils advocate thing no way you believe this or think it's a good idea. This is something a fool would do. Maybe a 10 year contract at a second rate college for a big name coach makes sense but not for 100 million. Bad business.

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Foo wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Foo wrote:I think the Gruden contract is good for everyone. Obviously they are familiar and comfortable with each other, so why not commit to a stable and long term agreement? Makes far more sense to me than many of these short term deals that just force short term thinking. As a key figure in a billion dollar competitive business, a short term commitment has never made sense to me.

Nah nobody will justify a 10 year contract for a coach to me. When he's 8-8 or worse for a few years and the base knows he won't be replaced is just bad business. Gruden is a cool name but it's stupid. I remember him crying Manziel wasn't being drafted early in the first round.

It is not like the position is based on athletic ability. Mark Davis and Gruden know each other, Gruden has a track record. I think if you believe enough in him to hire him, commitment is good all around. The coaching carousel has always been silly to me.

I believe this is a Foo Devils advocate thing no way you believe this or think it's a good idea. This is something a fool would do. Maybe a 10 year contract at a second rate college for a big name coach makes sense but not for 100 million. Bad business.

The money number was likely inflated because Gruden has a secure announcing announcing position that pays him well that he enjoys. But yeah, I have always been a believer in continuity.

Think of the normal cycle:

- Take over a team bad enough that warranted the firing of the coach
- 2-3 seasons to overhaul the roster full of decisions you did not make
- in many cases not having full control over the players brought in under your regime

If you get unlucky at the QB position with all that, you might have no chance. If you get lucky at QB and get a couple more stars, then you are set. Coaching matters, but teams also put a lot of coaches into impossible situations. Then they are often looking at the near term to save their job. Ask the Broncos coach if he would rather have a rookie or a solid veteran next season with his job teetering on the edge.

It's being reported out of Boston that Belichick wanted Brady out for Garoppolo but Kraft forced Garoppolo out in favor of Brady. Belichick is steaming, preparing his coordinators to interview for head coaching positions, indicating Belichick may be out of New England next year. Kraft has since been vocal about regretting the trade. I, for one, hope it's true. I would love to see Brady without Belichick for a change.

R.I.P. New England?

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Tiggnutz wrote:

Foo wrote:I think the Gruden contract is good for everyone. Obviously they are familiar and comfortable with each other, so why not commit to a stable and long term agreement? Makes far more sense to me than many of these short term deals that just force short term thinking. As a key figure in a billion dollar competitive business, a short term commitment has never made sense to me.

Nah nobody will justify a 10 year contract for a coach to me. When he's 8-8 or worse for a few years and the base knows he won't be replaced is just bad business. Gruden is a cool name but it's stupid. I remember him crying Manziel wasn't being drafted early in the first round.

It is not like the position is based on athletic ability. Mark Davis and Gruden know each other, Gruden has a track record. I think if you believe enough in him to hire him, commitment is good all around. The coaching carousel has always been silly to me.

I believe this is a Foo Devils advocate thing no way you believe this or think it's a good idea. This is something a fool would do. Maybe a 10 year contract at a second rate college for a big name coach makes sense but not for 100 million. Bad business.

The money number was likely inflated because Gruden has a secure announcing announcing position that pays him well that he enjoys. But yeah, I have always been a believer in continuity.

Think of the normal cycle:

- Take over a team bad enough that warranted the firing of the coach
- 2-3 seasons to overhaul the roster full of decisions you did not make
- in many cases not having full control over the players brought in under your regime

If you get unlucky at the QB position with all that, you might have no chance. If you get lucky at QB and get a couple more stars, then you are set. Coaching matters, but teams also put a lot of coaches into impossible situations. Then they are often looking at the near term to save their job. Ask the Broncos coach if he would rather have a rookie or a solid veteran next season with his job teetering on the edge.

Nope horrible organization decision this has nothing to do with that. It's too risky to start someone at that contract just bad business. This isn't bringing in God to coach your team it's all publicity.

Jason wrote:It's being reported out of Boston that Belichick wanted Brady out for Garoppolo but Kraft forced Garoppolo out in favor of Brady. Belichick is steaming, preparing his coordinators to interview for head coaching positions, indicating Belichick may be out of New England next year. Kraft has since been vocal about regretting the trade. I, for one, hope it's true. I would love to see Brady without Belichick for a change.

R.I.P. New England?

Fake news that they thrive on

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Foo wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Foo wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Foo wrote:I think the Gruden contract is good for everyone. Obviously they are familiar and comfortable with each other, so why not commit to a stable and long term agreement? Makes far more sense to me than many of these short term deals that just force short term thinking. As a key figure in a billion dollar competitive business, a short term commitment has never made sense to me.

Nah nobody will justify a 10 year contract for a coach to me. When he's 8-8 or worse for a few years and the base knows he won't be replaced is just bad business. Gruden is a cool name but it's stupid. I remember him crying Manziel wasn't being drafted early in the first round.

It is not like the position is based on athletic ability. Mark Davis and Gruden know each other, Gruden has a track record. I think if you believe enough in him to hire him, commitment is good all around. The coaching carousel has always been silly to me.

I believe this is a Foo Devils advocate thing no way you believe this or think it's a good idea. This is something a fool would do. Maybe a 10 year contract at a second rate college for a big name coach makes sense but not for 100 million. Bad business.

The money number was likely inflated because Gruden has a secure announcing announcing position that pays him well that he enjoys. But yeah, I have always been a believer in continuity.

Think of the normal cycle:

- Take over a team bad enough that warranted the firing of the coach
- 2-3 seasons to overhaul the roster full of decisions you did not make
- in many cases not having full control over the players brought in under your regime

If you get unlucky at the QB position with all that, you might have no chance. If you get lucky at QB and get a couple more stars, then you are set. Coaching matters, but teams also put a lot of coaches into impossible situations. Then they are often looking at the near term to save their job. Ask the Broncos coach if he would rather have a rookie or a solid veteran next season with his job teetering on the edge.

Nope horrible organization decision this has nothing to do with that. It's too risky to start someone at that contract just bad business. This isn't bringing in God to coach your team it's all publicity.

He has coached there before. From the sounds of it, they wish he had been there for the last ten years. Also, what is reported is not always true. The "guarantee" might have conditions.

With QBs now getting near $30m a year, the teams making huge sums of revenues, I would do exactly what the Raiders appear to be doing, which is investing in your coaching infrastructure where there is no cap. Coaching and scouting.

How much has Belichick been worth to the Patriots? You almost can't put a number on it. I am not saying Gruden is right or wrong, but for the right guy, give them tons for a long term.

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Jason wrote:It's being reported out of Boston that Belichick wanted Brady out for Garoppolo but Kraft forced Garoppolo out in favor of Brady. Belichick is steaming, preparing his coordinators to interview for head coaching positions, indicating Belichick may be out of New England next year. Kraft has since been vocal about regretting the trade. I, for one, hope it's true. I would love to see Brady without Belichick for a change.

R.I.P. New England?

Fake news that they thrive on

No. The rift is real. Whether or not Belichick leaves next year is the only variable.

The media has so rapidly deteriorated into total garbage, it makes one wonder how bad it will be in the near future. It is one solid stream of rumor and innuendo from unnamed sources.

Mariota/Tennessee sucking, as per the norm. Chiefs pick was the easiest pick in these wild cards.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... ooney-rule

Out of curiosity, how do we determine who is a minority and who is not? John Gruden has blonde hair. There are fewer people with blonde hair than are of African descent.

Jason wrote:Mariota/Tennessee sucking, as per the norm. Chiefs pick was the easiest pick in these wild cards.

May have jinxed it. :p

Love games like this!!!

Tough, gritty performance by Mariota. Wow.

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Jason wrote:Mariota/Tennessee sucking, as per the norm. Chiefs pick was the easiest pick in these wild cards.

May have jinxed it. :p

GOAT jinx.

Rockies will never win World Series. Especially 2018.

Chiefs fans are livid because of that two point conversion fumble by Mariota that was blown dead early. Lol. You homos suck in the playoffs anyway.

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Jason wrote:Mariota/Tennessee sucking, as per the norm. Chiefs pick was the easiest pick in these wild cards.

May have jinxed it. :p

GOAT jinx.

Rockies will never win World Series. Especially 2018.

I am really excited for baseball this year. I was in three bands, but now I am putting all my focus into one. I needed more time for baseball!

Imagine thinking letting Alex Smith throw a million times is the way to win a playoff game. What a pathetic loser franchise Kansas City is. The Broncos have won at Arrowhead in the playoffs more recently than the Queefs. Cucked by the whole football universe. Sad!