August 1st 2018a

[DancesWithWerewolves]

Joe Bob liked Tourist Trap and Sleepaway Camp more than The Prowler? WTF? He must be getting tired at this point in the marathon

Sleepaway Camp is campy brilliance! Bad acting, etc. I've never seen The Prowler though.

Maybe The Prowler is too high in actual film-making quality for him to enjoy. The more badly made, or absurd, he enjoys. :p

Ok, gotta check it out then!

Directed by Joseph Zito, who'd go on to direct the Slasherpiece, Friday The 13th: The Final Chapter. His fingerprints are consistent. Tom Savini also does stellar gore FX in The Prowler as well.

[Jmac Attack]

Joe Bob liked Tourist Trap and Sleepaway Camp more than The Prowler? WTF? He must be getting tired at this point in the marathon

Sleepaway Camp is campy brilliance! Bad acting, etc. I've never seen The Prowler though.

Maybe The Prowler is too high in actual film-making quality for him to enjoy. The more badly made, or absurd, he enjoys. :p

Ok, gotta check it out then!

Directed by Joseph Zito, who'd go on to direct the Slasherpiece, Friday The 13th: The Final Chapter. His fingerprints are consistent. Tom Savini also does stellar gore FX in The Prowler as well.

Well fuck. It's my next movie I chose to watch then. Sold.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

And it is always tough with artists and fair pay. Just to give an example, let's say an artist needs work. Are you exploiting them by paying them less than their market rate because although you want the art, you don't need it?

Depends on the "market rate". Hell, I price myself way below the recommended rate for starting artists, and I'm still told I'm too high. Just last week I got told "you must think mighty high of yourself."

At shows, I always show your work to people. And the response is always, "wow!". Not even kidding.

Need an album cover?

[Tiggnutz]

Prowler is fantastic

[Jmac Attack]

And it is always tough with artists and fair pay. Just to give an example, let's say an artist needs work. Are you exploiting them by paying them less than their market rate because although you want the art, you don't need it?

Depends on the "market rate". Hell, I price myself way below the recommended rate for starting artists, and I'm still told I'm too high. Just last week I got told "you must think mighty high of yourself."

At shows, I always show your work to people. And the response is always, "wow!". Not even kidding.

Need an album cover?

Yes! My singer showed me his ideas, and they're decent. But he ain't you. Lol

[Jason]

The Prowler is an absolute must see. Slasher on the level of Madman, My Bloody Valentine, The Burning, etc...

[DancesWithWerewolves]

Prowler is fantastic

It's a top 5 slasher to me. Up there with F13:Final Chapter, Halloween, and Bay of Blood.

[Jmac Attack]

The Prowler is an absolute must see. Slasher on the level of Madman, My Bloody Valentine, The Burning, etc...

Damn. This is why I love this board. I've always skipped over that one. As a horror fan, of course we wanna see everything we can. But we all have movies we have on the "back burner". Prowler has been mine for a few years.

[Jason]

The Prowler is an absolute must see. Slasher on the level of Madman, My Bloody Valentine, The Burning, etc...

Damn. This is why I love this board. I've always skipped over that one. As a horror fan, of course we wanna see everything we can. But we all have movies we have on the "back burner". Prowler has been mine for a few years.

Yeah, I still need to see the original Nightmare on Elm Street.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

And it is always tough with artists and fair pay. Just to give an example, let's say an artist needs work. Are you exploiting them by paying them less than their market rate because although you want the art, you don't need it?

Depends on the "market rate". Hell, I price myself way below the recommended rate for starting artists, and I'm still told I'm too high. Just last week I got told "you must think mighty high of yourself."

At shows, I always show your work to people. And the response is always, "wow!". Not even kidding.

Need an album cover?

Yes! My singer showed me his ideas, and they're decent. But he ain't you. Lol

Message me details if you can get everyone on board. I know many artists like a lot of creative freedom, but where I work, I've dealt with so many customers that expect me to read their mind and won't say what they want...I actually like it when customers have concepts/ideas that I can work with. I hate dancing around and wasting time.

[Foo]

We are not trying to profit off the song to make it clear. In fact, I hated that song but an ex band member mentioned covering it. So, as a joke, I played how I thought the song went. The rest of the band jumped in, and it just sounded so good that it stuck with us.

Look into it. It may simply be a blessing thing now. I know Weird Al likes to get permission to do a parody, but he'll still do one without and he's been legally fine (though, parody is exempt from copyright, I just used that as an example).

The real problem is that you can be 100% correct legally and still lose because you are forced to fight it.

People expect art for free these days. It's a bitch. I don't excpet a guy to work on my brakes, just to pay me for exposure. I agree with ya. It's just frustrating when others think you should be in the big time, but society says you can't (metaphorically). I mean, I always wonder why D isn't being hit up by big time movie companies because he is really good and legit. His art is out there. And people see it. I was going to buy a piece of his art, but had car trouble and was paying out of pocket for my kid's therapist. And that happened all of a sudden.

As a businessman, what advice would you give to me? I run my band as a business, but underneath the surface. On the surface, we look like we are just having fun. But I am known as a business-like mind in my local music community. Any advice is appreciated even if I disagree.

Honestly, our friends are usually terrible people to ask because they are going to favor us. Society is all that really matters.

In any trade, people need to develop their secondary business skills, namely sales, marketing, and negotiating. If the band is a business, no business goes anywhere without tons of time put into the business beyond creating the art. If the band has four members, they should ALL be giving 10-20 hours per week to those efforts.

Think of a bakery making great cupcakes. Lots of people can make great cupcakes. If few people know about them or how good they are the bakery fails. Now imagine 80 hours of marketing every week pushing the cupcakes out there. It is a totally different story. You probably see how much I promote Crave Eatery, is it an accident that the next 5 most popular food trucks combined don't have as many facebook likes in our market? Or that people call us before the others? Anyone can make a turkey sandwich, but the difference is making lots of people want it.

The builder in your area who makes the most money selling homes or doing home improvements is not the guy who swings the hammer the best, I guarantee it.

[Jmac Attack]

And it is always tough with artists and fair pay. Just to give an example, let's say an artist needs work. Are you exploiting them by paying them less than their market rate because although you want the art, you don't need it?

Depends on the "market rate". Hell, I price myself way below the recommended rate for starting artists, and I'm still told I'm too high. Just last week I got told "you must think mighty high of yourself."

At shows, I always show your work to people. And the response is always, "wow!". Not even kidding.

Need an album cover?

Yes! My singer showed me his ideas, and they're decent. But he ain't you. Lol

Message me details if you can get everyone on board. I know many artists like a lot of creative freedom, but where I work, I've dealt with so many customers that expect me to read their mind and won't say what they want...I actually like it when customers have concepts/ideas that I can work with. I hate dancing around and wasting time.

I just did, actually. He has good ideas, but what he has sent me has been generic looking as fuck. He's a decent artist. But it's like Joe Satriani having decent guitar players play G3. I like what he is going for. But I think artistic direction is just that. And let the artist make it great. If that makes sense.

[Foo]

D, I need a retro cartoon girl or boy with kind of a snarky look on their face holding a lime in the foreground for my limeade stand. If you think this is in your wheelhouse, shoot me a quote.

[Foo]

Last logo I did I used a company with some east indian girl doing the work. You would not believe the number of revisions. I ended up basically drawing it and then having her piece it together. This was the final.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

D, I need a retro cartoon girl or boy with kind of a snarky look on their face holding a lime in the foreground for my limeade stand. If you think this is in your wheelhouse, shoot me a quote.

lol, a wha?

How retro? That word covers a lot these days.

[Foo]

ok, that was huge. Sorry!

[Jason]

D, I need a retro cartoon girl or boy with kind of a snarky look on their face holding a lime in the foreground for my limeade stand. If you think this is in your wheelhouse, shoot me a quote.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

Logos are a pain the ass. Because they've got to be iconic, clear, and the good ones have multiple uses. I acknowledge it's not a strong suit of mine, but it wasn't something I was that interested in either.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

D, I need a retro cartoon girl or boy with kind of a snarky look on their face holding a lime in the foreground for my limeade stand. If you think this is in your wheelhouse, shoot me a quote.

ahahahahahaha!

[Foo]

D, I need a retro cartoon girl or boy with kind of a snarky look on their face holding a lime in the foreground for my limeade stand. If you think this is in your wheelhouse, shoot me a quote.

lol, a wha?

How retro? That word covers a lot these days.

You know the Average Joes logo from dodgeball with the kid? Has like that 50's vibe? But I am thinking a little girl with kind or a shit eating grin. Like sour and a tad menacing, but adorable. But maybe her fist is crushing a lime in forced perspective.