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Yes.Foo wrote:Hard to argue that at this moment, the conservatives are far more willing to have dialogue while the liberals are into suppression of different ideas. It is rampant across academia, social media, and in the workplace.
yeah, i do think that most of the people he attracts to the show are largely gonna be know it alls that are already set into their beliefs and not willing to concede on any point, as well.Reign in Blood wrote:Would you agree, that plenty of these kids think they are know-it-alls anyways, and he's actually welcoming to their disagreements?zombie wrote:Reign in Blood wrote:Being a political science student and protesting everything in every waking hour puts him at a disadvantage, I'd agree.zombie wrote:stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?
You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.at least we're coming to something that could resemble an agreement.
I am saying that a certain amount of our beliefs have to be formed largely due to trust.zombie wrote:i don't know. are you saying that we should just blindly believe in climate change or not believe, because someone said so on the television? what are you trying to get at?Foo wrote:How effective would that be with climate change?zombie wrote:i think we, as the "zombies" should always make at least a little bit of effort to decide for ourselves what our view on an issue actually is, and not just take the word of some public figure on what it should be.Jason wrote:Yes... Handing down the exact same rhetoric to spew to the zombies... Does not matter their political affiliation.zombie wrote:but your source in that end is one such media brain washer, no?Jason wrote:I'm calling out media brainwashing agenda. Leave it to Seb to make it about picking sides.zombie wrote:as it seems to me, he thinks you're calling out liberal media agenda by using conservative media agenda?Jason wrote:Wait, does Seb think I'm attacking Sinclair, here?
The entire premise of this thread is to point out that cable news is a money game. Which clearly went over Seb's head with that failed "gotcha".
how is suppression attempted? i mean obviously denying someone a platform to speak, but are there other ways?Foo wrote:Hard to argue that at this moment, the conservatives are far more willing to have dialogue while the liberals are into suppression of different ideas. It is rampant across academia, social media, and in the workplace.
What makes you believe that? Never even on here have you encountered someone to not concede a point. Foo does everyday, Jason every hour, Me every minute. Non-sense.zombie wrote:yeah, i do think that most of the people he attracts to the show are largely gonna be know it alls that are already set into their beliefs and not willing to concede on any point, as well.Reign in Blood wrote:Would you agree, that plenty of these kids think they are know-it-alls anyways, and he's actually welcoming to their disagreements?zombie wrote:Reign in Blood wrote:Being a political science student and protesting everything in every waking hour puts him at a disadvantage, I'd agree.zombie wrote:stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?
You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.
People are losing their jobs for espousing conservative viewpoints on Twitter, or banned on those platforms. Teachers are fired for sharing conservative beliefs, but never liberal beliefs. In media, people lose shows when they do not toe the liberal line, and it never goes the other way.zombie wrote:how is suppression attempted? i mean obviously denying someone a platform to speak, but are there other ways?Foo wrote:Hard to argue that at this moment, the conservatives are far more willing to have dialogue while the liberals are into suppression of different ideas. It is rampant across academia, social media, and in the workplace.
but you can choose to trust or not to trust. you have chosen not to trust in climate change. is that just because you heard trump question it's validity, or is there more to your reasoning?Foo wrote: I am saying that a certain amount of our beliefs have to be formed largely due to trust.
Look, we can't even get similar accounts on something like the migrant caravan, which can be seen, let alone something that 100% relies on the accuracy of both data and interpretation.
Yes....I'm bored as fuck. LolJmac Attack wrote:An overwhelming buttfucking shit ton of scientists all across the globe agree that global warming is real and humans are only accelerating things. Then again, I do nothing, myself, to help limit it. Lol
9 out of 10 Dentists all agree a different brand of toothpaste is the very best.Jmac Attack wrote:An overwhelming buttfucking shit ton of scientists all across the globe agree that global warming is real and humans are only accelerating things. Then again, I do nothing, myself, to help limit it. Lol
This is where my defense of democrats ends they do not want dialogue or compromise. They have put there flag down in only we can help and everyone else is a white supremacist nazi homophobic bigot fat cat. Forsaken any chance of anything getting done ever until they are in power.Reign in Blood wrote:Yes.Foo wrote:Hard to argue that at this moment, the conservatives are far more willing to have dialogue while the liberals are into suppression of different ideas. It is rampant across academia, social media, and in the workplace.
hmf is a different environment than a college campus. none of us is a political media figure with a relatively large audience and we've all known each other for a long time. it is not the same by a large margin.Reign in Blood wrote:What makes you believe that? Never even on here have you encountered someone to not concede a point. Foo does everyday, Jason every hour, Me every minute. Non-sense.zombie wrote:yeah, i do think that most of the people he attracts to the show are largely gonna be know it alls that are already set into their beliefs and not willing to concede on any point, as well.Reign in Blood wrote:Would you agree, that plenty of these kids think they are know-it-alls anyways, and he's actually welcoming to their disagreements?zombie wrote:Reign in Blood wrote:Being a political science student and protesting everything in every waking hour puts him at a disadvantage, I'd agree.zombie wrote:stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?
You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.
that's also denying someone a platform to speak. i guess i should have included punishing them for speaking, as a way to deny the platform, so there wasn't confusion.Foo wrote:People are losing their jobs for espousing conservative viewpoints on Twitter, or banned on those platforms. Teachers are fired for sharing conservative beliefs, but never liberal beliefs. In media, people lose shows when they do not toe the liberal line, and it never goes the other way.zombie wrote:how is suppression attempted? i mean obviously denying someone a platform to speak, but are there other ways?Foo wrote:Hard to argue that at this moment, the conservatives are far more willing to have dialogue while the liberals are into suppression of different ideas. It is rampant across academia, social media, and in the workplace.
Pshhhhhh.....like your propaganda is better.Foo wrote:9 out of 10 Dentists all agree a different brand of toothpaste is the very best.Jmac Attack wrote:An overwhelming buttfucking shit ton of scientists all across the globe agree that global warming is real and humans are only accelerating things. Then again, I do nothing, myself, to help limit it. Lol
Trust me! Mine is the best! There is no money at all in me telling you this about my toothpaste brand!
My main reason is not trust in the science, it is trust in the solution. Feels too much like a snake oil pitch.zombie wrote:but you can choose to trust or not to trust. you have chosen not to trust in climate change. is that just because you heard trump question it's validity, or is there more to your reasoning?Foo wrote: I am saying that a certain amount of our beliefs have to be formed largely due to trust.
Look, we can't even get similar accounts on something like the migrant caravan, which can be seen, let alone something that 100% relies on the accuracy of both data and interpretation.
Well I'm glad to know none of us compare to a political media figure by a large margin. We're navel lint.zombie wrote:hmf is a different environment than a college campus. none of us is a political media figure with a relatively large audience and we've all known each other for a long time. it is not the same by a large margin.Reign in Blood wrote:What makes you believe that? Never even on here have you encountered someone to not concede a point. Foo does everyday, Jason every hour, Me every minute. Non-sense.zombie wrote:yeah, i do think that most of the people he attracts to the show are largely gonna be know it alls that are already set into their beliefs and not willing to concede on any point, as well.Reign in Blood wrote:Would you agree, that plenty of these kids think they are know-it-alls anyways, and he's actually welcoming to their disagreements?zombie wrote:Reign in Blood wrote:Being a political science student and protesting everything in every waking hour puts him at a disadvantage, I'd agree.zombie wrote:stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?
You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.
There is a significant difference between not handing someone a microphone and taking their job away for not agreeing with your positions that do not relate to the job.zombie wrote:that's also denying someone a platform to speak. i guess i should have included punishing them for speaking, as a way to deny the platform, so there wasn't confusion.Foo wrote:People are losing their jobs for espousing conservative viewpoints on Twitter, or banned on those platforms. Teachers are fired for sharing conservative beliefs, but never liberal beliefs. In media, people lose shows when they do not toe the liberal line, and it never goes the other way.zombie wrote:how is suppression attempted? i mean obviously denying someone a platform to speak, but are there other ways?Foo wrote:Hard to argue that at this moment, the conservatives are far more willing to have dialogue while the liberals are into suppression of different ideas. It is rampant across academia, social media, and in the workplace.
so then we are not disagreeing on making up our own minds, which was the point of what i said. i didn't mean that you better come to the same conclusions that i do, or else don't make up your mind.Foo wrote:My main reason is not trust in the science, it is trust in the solution. Feels too much like a snake oil pitch.zombie wrote:but you can choose to trust or not to trust. you have chosen not to trust in climate change. is that just because you heard trump question it's validity, or is there more to your reasoning?Foo wrote: I am saying that a certain amount of our beliefs have to be formed largely due to trust.
Look, we can't even get similar accounts on something like the migrant caravan, which can be seen, let alone something that 100% relies on the accuracy of both data and interpretation.
Also, I don't feel any moral responsibility to prevent it. Accordingly, I am certainly not going to make you use your money to prevent it.
we're naval lint, which includes me!Reign in Blood wrote:Well I'm glad to know none of us compare to a political media figure by a large margin. We're navel lint.zombie wrote:hmf is a different environment than a college campus. none of us is a political media figure with a relatively large audience and we've all known each other for a long time. it is not the same by a large margin.Reign in Blood wrote:What makes you believe that? Never even on here have you encountered someone to not concede a point. Foo does everyday, Jason every hour, Me every minute. Non-sense.zombie wrote:yeah, i do think that most of the people he attracts to the show are largely gonna be know it alls that are already set into their beliefs and not willing to concede on any point, as well.Reign in Blood wrote:Would you agree, that plenty of these kids think they are know-it-alls anyways, and he's actually welcoming to their disagreements?zombie wrote:Reign in Blood wrote:Being a political science student and protesting everything in every waking hour puts him at a disadvantage, I'd agree.zombie wrote:stacked because he's calling on random people who don't make a living at politics and are not prepared for whatever topic he's coming with.Reign in Blood wrote:
Stacked, because he came armed with facts? He's returned to the same universities multiple times where the students knew of him and his show, so I don't know. Do they all need a briefing before he comes sitting down with his folding table and mic? A safe space to prepare?
You wanna bet Jason or I could randomly come across him at Disneyland or some shit and have a perfectly reasonable conversation with him? Over/under is at a 1000.
again, do whatever he wants. at least he's making pretense of an effort to be open to other people's viewpoints and opinions.