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Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:11 pm
by showa58taro
I will be thrilled with whichever Long Snapper we take in round one.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:24 pm
by Headhunter
Only projecting one trade but here’s my quick Round 1 mock.

1. Bengals - Joe Burrow
2. Redskins - Chase Young
3. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa
4. Giants - Andrew Thomas
5. Lions - Jeff Okudah
6. Chargers - Justin Herbert
7. Panthers - Derrick Brown
8. Cardinals - Isaiah Simmons
9. Jaguars - CJ Henderson
10. Browns - Tristan Wirfs
11. Jets - Jedrick Wills
12. Raiders - CeeDee Lamb
13. 49ers - Henry Ruggs
14. Bucs - Mekhi Becton
15. Broncos - Jerry Jeudy
16. Falcons - Javon Kinlaw
17. Cowboys - K’Lavon Chaisson
18. Dolphins - Josh Jones
19. Raiders - AJ Terrell
20. Jaguars - Kenneth Murray
21. Eagles - Justin Jefferson
22. Vikings - Ezra Cleveland
23. Patriots - Xavier McKinney
24. Saints - Patrick Queen
25. Vikings - Jaylon Johnson
26. Dolphins - D’Andre Swift
27. Seahawks - Yetur Gross-Matos
28. Ravens - Cesar Ruiz
29. Titans - Isaiah Wilson
30. Packers - Brandon Aiyuk
31. 49ers - Kristian Fulton
32. Chiefs - Jalen Reagor

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:43 pm
by Jason
I'm cool with CJ Henderson if he falls. Which is very possible.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:48 pm
by Jason
If Henderson is taken early, I want Denver to trade up to 13. If not, at 15, they'll be in position for whichever three is available between Henderson, Jeudy and Riggs

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:51 pm
by Headhunter
I don't see Henderson being someone Vic would want, he's a poor effort tackler. Also really should be drafted into a pure man scheme to get the most out of him. I like the Day 2 options at corner personally.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:57 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:I don't see Henderson being someone Vic would want, he's a poor effort tackler. Also really should be drafted into a pure man scheme to get the most out of him. I like the Day 2 options at corner personally.
Same. Didn't know he was a poor tackler. Bouye has whiffed enough in a few games.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:59 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:I don't see Henderson being someone Vic would want, he's a poor effort tackler. Also really should be drafted into a pure man scheme to get the most out of him. I like the Day 2 options at corner personally.
Same. Didn't know he was a poor tackler. Bouye has whiffed enough in a few games.
He's a sticky man corner with really fluid hips. I like him, just don't think he makes sense for us. Honestly I think they just need to get one of the top 3 WRs. Just get it done.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:01 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:Only projecting one trade but here’s my quick Round 1 mock.

1. Bengals - Joe Burrow
2. Redskins - Chase Young
3. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa
4. Giants - Andrew Thomas
5. Lions - Jeff Okudah
6. Chargers - Justin Herbert
7. Panthers - Derrick Brown
8. Cardinals - Isaiah Simmons
9. Jaguars - CJ Henderson
10. Browns - Tristan Wirfs
11. Jets - Jedrick Wills
12. Raiders - CeeDee Lamb
13. 49ers - Henry Ruggs
14. Bucs - Mekhi Becton
15. Broncos - Jerry Jeudy
16. Falcons - Javon Kinlaw
17. Cowboys - K’Lavon Chaisson
18. Dolphins - Josh Jones
19. Raiders - AJ Terrell
20. Jaguars - Kenneth Murray
21. Eagles - Justin Jefferson
22. Vikings - Ezra Cleveland
23. Patriots - Xavier McKinney
24. Saints - Patrick Queen
25. Vikings - Jaylon Johnson
26. Dolphins - D’Andre Swift
27. Seahawks - Yetur Gross-Matos
28. Ravens - Cesar Ruiz
29. Titans - Isaiah Wilson
30. Packers - Brandon Aiyuk
31. 49ers - Kristian Fulton
32. Chiefs - Jalen Reagor
I would be ecstatic but no way Ruiz makes it to 28 but maybe Queen does

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:02 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:I don't see Henderson being someone Vic would want, he's a poor effort tackler. Also really should be drafted into a pure man scheme to get the most out of him. I like the Day 2 options at corner personally.
Same. Didn't know he was a poor tackler. Bouye has whiffed enough in a few games.
He's a sticky man corner with really fluid hips. I like him, just don't think he makes sense for us. Honestly I think they just need to get one of the top 3 WRs. Just get it done.
They'll probably need to trade up. Lynch will likely inform Elway what he's gonna do with the 13 pick. If it's either Jeudy or Riggs (assuming the Raiders take Mr. Lamb Fries), they'll need that 13 slot to guarantee one of them, because many speculate Tampa to get another receiver for the dink and dunk king.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:02 pm
by Jason
Looking at mock drafts now. Some have Ruiz going as early as #3.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:05 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:I don't see Henderson being someone Vic would want, he's a poor effort tackler. Also really should be drafted into a pure man scheme to get the most out of him. I like the Day 2 options at corner personally.
Same. Didn't know he was a poor tackler. Bouye has whiffed enough in a few games.
He's a sticky man corner with really fluid hips. I like him, just don't think he makes sense for us. Honestly I think they just need to get one of the top 3 WRs. Just get it done.
They'll probably need to trade up. Lynch will likely inform Elway what he's gonna do with the 13 pick. If it's either Jeudy or Riggs (assuming the Raiders take Mr. Lamb Fries), they'll need that 13 slot to guarantee one of them, because many speculate Tampa to get another receiver for the dink and dunk king.
Could see them going as high up at 10. You can afford it with three 3rd round picks.

I wouldn't get Tampa going receiver. They need a tackle badly. They should really consider trading up for one.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:05 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Looking at mock drafts now. Some have Ruiz going as early as #3.
Cesar Ruiz? What

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:06 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:Looking at mock drafts now. Some have Ruiz going as early as #3.
Cesar Ruiz? What
Yeah. I'll try to find the name of the guy that had Ruiz going 3. Hold on...

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:07 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Only projecting one trade but here’s my quick Round 1 mock.

1. Bengals - Joe Burrow
2. Redskins - Chase Young
3. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa
4. Giants - Andrew Thomas
5. Lions - Jeff Okudah
6. Chargers - Justin Herbert
7. Panthers - Derrick Brown
8. Cardinals - Isaiah Simmons
9. Jaguars - CJ Henderson
10. Browns - Tristan Wirfs
11. Jets - Jedrick Wills
12. Raiders - CeeDee Lamb
13. 49ers - Henry Ruggs
14. Bucs - Mekhi Becton
15. Broncos - Jerry Jeudy
16. Falcons - Javon Kinlaw
17. Cowboys - K’Lavon Chaisson
18. Dolphins - Josh Jones
19. Raiders - AJ Terrell
20. Jaguars - Kenneth Murray
21. Eagles - Justin Jefferson
22. Vikings - Ezra Cleveland
23. Patriots - Xavier McKinney
24. Saints - Patrick Queen
25. Vikings - Jaylon Johnson
26. Dolphins - D’Andre Swift
27. Seahawks - Yetur Gross-Matos
28. Ravens - Cesar Ruiz
29. Titans - Isaiah Wilson
30. Packers - Brandon Aiyuk
31. 49ers - Kristian Fulton
32. Chiefs - Jalen Reagor
I would be ecstatic but no way Ruiz makes it to 28 but maybe Queen does
Queen would be a great pick. Kenneth Murray makes sense with the recent Oklahoma pipeline if he falls but I'm not a fan of him. I'm probably as out on him as anyone in the 1st round.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:08 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:Looking at mock drafts now. Some have Ruiz going as early as #3.
Cesar Ruiz? What
Yeah. I'll try to find the name of the guy that had Ruiz going 3. Hold on...
That's kinda insane. Quenton Nelson was probably the best guard prospect ever and didn't even go top 5. You just don't pick interior guys that high.

I think his ceiling is Dallas at 17.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:18 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:Looking at mock drafts now. Some have Ruiz going as early as #3.
Cesar Ruiz? What
Yeah. I'll try to find the name of the guy that had Ruiz going 3. Hold on...
That's kinda insane. Quenton Nelson was probably the best guard prospect ever and didn't even go top 5. You just don't pick interior guys that high.

I think his ceiling is Dallas at 17.
Nope. My fault. Someone had Miami picking him at 26 and I automatically assumed it was the #3 pick.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:22 pm
by Headhunter
Better pick at 26 than the RB I had them taking.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:25 pm
by showa58taro
Tua Tagovailoa still in the draft? I thought he dislocated his hip and broke a bone too? Surely that’s career ending shit in the NFL context?

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:27 pm
by showa58taro
Man I thought the draft was starting soon.

It’s just the draft build up. Fuck that. Will read about it tomorrow.

Re: NFL Discussion: 2020 Season

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:28 pm
by Headhunter
showa58taro wrote:Tua Tagovailoa still in the draft? I thought he dislocated his hip and broke a bone too? Surely that’s career ending shit in the NFL context?
Supposedly will be 100% by the season. The pandemic has kinda fucked over guys like him with injuries because teams can't look at them, to what degree we'll see.