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Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:13 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:GOP sold this country down the river. Young people should leave.
Would gladly trade our stupid and lazy young people for hard working foreigners who want to immigrate legally! We can put those tunnels to Mexico to productive use! Or we can have Elon Musk drill one and give liberals a big boner in the process.
I personally can't wait to leave this joke of a country for good. Keep sucking off the oligarchy.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:14 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.
You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:21 pm
by Headhunter
showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.
You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
The GOP honestly framing something? They can't afford to do that if they want to stay in power. It would be nice for the GOP to quit the charade and admit who owns them but they can't sell that to their base.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:23 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:GOP sold this country down the river. Young people should leave.
Would gladly trade our stupid and lazy young people for hard working foreigners who want to immigrate legally! We can put those tunnels to Mexico to productive use! Or we can have Elon Musk drill one and give liberals a big boner in the process.
I personally can't wait to leave this joke of a country for good. Keep sucking off the oligarchy.
The grass is always greener. I can get you into Venezuela. It is a socialist paradise.
If you want freedom, maybe just leave California. Happiness is found in your own mind and heart. There is nothing going on that should be messing with your mood.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:28 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.
You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
I just did honestly frame it. You can't cut taxes for people don't pay them.
Since many, many people work for corporations, giving corporate tax cuts means the corporations are in better position, and thusly, more money available for investment and pay, while also enhancing long term stability.
When you say "the rich", where is the honesty? I wasn't aware the family making payments on a Kia and having special dinners at Olive Garden were considered "the rich".
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:30 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.
You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
I just did honestly frame it. You can't cut taxes for people don't pay them.
Since many, many people work for corporations, giving corporate tax cuts means the corporations are in better position, and thusly, more money available for investment and pay, while also enhancing long term stability.
When you say "the rich", where is the honesty? I wasn't aware the family making payments on a Kia and having special dinners at Olive Garden were considered "the rich".
There you go with the dishonesty. There’s no real link between lower corporate taxes and wage increases. It’s a myth debunked a thousand times over. More bullshit and lies.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:32 pm
by Headhunter
The trickle down con is the gift that keeps on giving. This country is so fucking dumb.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:37 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:The trickle down con is the gift that keeps on giving. This country is so fucking dumb.
Yeah, we know. We are just waiting for you to lead the way. Everyone is dumb but you. Unless we are allowing tranny men in ladies rooms, them we are on the correct path to enlightenment.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:38 pm
by Jason
It's pretty incredible how people in general tend to be cool as fuck and also mind their own business outside of California.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:41 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.
You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
I just did honestly frame it. You can't cut taxes for people don't pay them.
Since many, many people work for corporations, giving corporate tax cuts means the corporations are in better position, and thusly, more money available for investment and pay, while also enhancing long term stability.
When you say "the rich", where is the honesty? I wasn't aware the family making payments on a Kia and having special dinners at Olive Garden were considered "the rich".
There you go with the dishonesty. There’s no real link between lower corporate taxes and wage increases. It’s a myth debunked a thousand times over. More bullshit and lies.
If you have more money to spend are you able to pay your employees more than you would if you have less money to spend?
I run a corporation. I can tell you for a fact, the money we have after taxes influences what we are able to pay employees. It is not a difficult concept.
To understand the implications of a corporate tax cut, you have to understand the basics of how an economy works and stop worrying so much about the guy next to you who has more than you.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:42 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:The trickle down con is the gift that keeps on giving. This country is so fucking dumb.
Yeah, we know. We are just waiting for you to lead the way. Everyone is dumb but you. Unless we are allowing tranny men in ladies rooms, them we are on the correct path to enlightenment.
Aren't we sensitive today. Poor baby.
Do you have a tranny fetish or something? You sure can't take your mind off them.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:46 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:It's pretty incredible how people in general tend to be cool as fuck and also mind their own business outside of California.
So why are you here?
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:48 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:The trickle down con is the gift that keeps on giving. This country is so fucking dumb.
Yeah, we know. We are just waiting for you to lead the way. Everyone is dumb but you. Unless we are allowing tranny men in ladies rooms, them we are on the correct path to enlightenment.
Aren't we sensitive today. Poor baby.
Do you have a tranny fetish or something? You sure can't take your mind off them.
I am sensitive every day. This is why I take the time to learn about people and how to help them.
No tranny fetish. Do you fetishize dumb people?
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:49 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:It's pretty incredible how people in general tend to be cool as fuck and also mind their own business outside of California.
So why are you here?
Leaving family and friends behind is a pretty tough thing.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:50 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:Foo wrote:Headhunter wrote:The trickle down con is the gift that keeps on giving. This country is so fucking dumb.
Yeah, we know. We are just waiting for you to lead the way. Everyone is dumb but you. Unless we are allowing tranny men in ladies rooms, them we are on the correct path to enlightenment.
Aren't we sensitive today. Poor baby.
Do you have a tranny fetish or something? You sure can't take your mind off them.
I am sensitive every day. This is why I take the time to learn about people and how to help them.
No tranny fetish. Do you fetishize dumb people?
Nobody but you here cares about your tranny fetish. You seem constantly offended by my sentiments about this country being full of idiots though, like it's tapping into your own insecurities. You're not dumb, you just love to cape for dumb people.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:50 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Headhunter wrote:Jason wrote:It's pretty incredible how people in general tend to be cool as fuck and also mind their own business outside of California.
So why are you here?
Leaving family and friends behind is a pretty tough thing.
Not really. Oughta try it.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:53 pm
by Foo
Head, you were Ron Paul's biggest supporter when he was advocating dropping the corporate tax rate from 35% all the way down to 15%. What happened?
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:54 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.
You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
I just did honestly frame it. You can't cut taxes for people don't pay them.
Since many, many people work for corporations, giving corporate tax cuts means the corporations are in better position, and thusly, more money available for investment and pay, while also enhancing long term stability.
When you say "the rich", where is the honesty? I wasn't aware the family making payments on a Kia and having special dinners at Olive Garden were considered "the rich".
There you go with the dishonesty. There’s no real link between lower corporate taxes and wage increases. It’s a myth debunked a thousand times over. More bullshit and lies.
If you have more money to spend are you able to pay your employees more than you would if you have less money to spend?
I run a corporation. I can tell you for a fact, the money we have after taxes influences what we are able to pay employees. It is not a difficult concept.
To understand the implications of a corporate tax cut, you have to understand the basics of how an economy works and stop worrying so much about the guy next to you who has more than you.
I audited countless corporations in the UK when the corporation tax rates were cut consistently every year. I can say with absolute certainty there is no link between corporation tax cuts and wage increases.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:00 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:showa58taro wrote:Foo wrote:If you hate people keeping more of what they earn, you probably have issues.
You cannot give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes in the first place. So of course tax cuts will disproportionately favor payers over non-payers. 95% of the whiners don't pay taxes, but think they do.
I just prefer if it was honestly framed.
I just did honestly frame it. You can't cut taxes for people don't pay them.
Since many, many people work for corporations, giving corporate tax cuts means the corporations are in better position, and thusly, more money available for investment and pay, while also enhancing long term stability.
When you say "the rich", where is the honesty? I wasn't aware the family making payments on a Kia and having special dinners at Olive Garden were considered "the rich".
There you go with the dishonesty. There’s no real link between lower corporate taxes and wage increases. It’s a myth debunked a thousand times over. More bullshit and lies.
If you have more money to spend are you able to pay your employees more than you would if you have less money to spend?
I run a corporation. I can tell you for a fact, the money we have after taxes influences what we are able to pay employees. It is not a difficult concept.
To understand the implications of a corporate tax cut, you have to understand the basics of how an economy works and stop worrying so much about the guy next to you who has more than you.
I audited countless corporations in the UK when the corporation tax rates were cut consistently every year. I can say with absolute certainty there is no link between corporation tax cuts and wage increases.
The UK has about a million other issues offsetting those cuts. No one wants to invest there. We are talking about the US.
The UK was too late in just trying to be competitive with their taxes. They lost so much business to the world and no one really trusts them to maintain the rate cuts. In fact, they are not even fully phased in and the political tide is already turning to phase them out.
Re: Trump and the tax code simplification
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:04 pm
by Headhunter
I do not fault you for your tranny fetish, Foo. Everyone has their thing.