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Jmac Attack wrote:I do agree with Foo that we live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent. That, he is totally right about.
Yep. Social media just fans the flames too.

I'm still bummed that Danny Masterson was fired from The Ranch even though there was an investigation and found nothing about his rape charges, from over a decade ago. But hey, the Social Media pitchfork & torches must be right.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote: D- Get any cool musical thangs lately?
Not really. Been focused on this graphic novel project. Still waiting on remaining beta readers to finish. If someone's going to volunteer, they really should commit to it, not string it out for months for a quick-easy read. Seriously, can be read in a fucking hour, all 7 issues.
That's cool you're writing though. My drummer bought me a DiMarzio Distortiin stacked P90 pickup for my* Les Paul.

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DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:I do agree with Foo that we live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent. That, he is totally right about.
Yep. Social media just fans the flames too.

I'm still bummed that Danny Masterson was fired from The Ranch even though there was an investigation and found nothing about his rape charges, from over a decade ago. But hey, the Social Media pitchfork & torches must be right.
Exactly. I don't know all of the details about his case, but if they have found nothing, there should not be a witch hunt.
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Jmac Attack wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:I do agree with Foo that we live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent. That, he is totally right about.
Yep. Social media just fans the flames too.

I'm still bummed that Danny Masterson was fired from The Ranch even though there was an investigation and found nothing about his rape charges, from over a decade ago. But hey, the Social Media pitchfork & torches must be right.
Exactly. I don't know all of the details about his case, but if they have found nothing, there should not be a witch hunt.
Netlix admitted that they fired him because of the social pressure to after firing Kevin Spacy, too.

From what I remember reading, it was discovered that Danny's accuser was an ex girlfriend that was jealous he found someone else, and married that someone else.
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also, the southpark guys were libertarian republicans before the current witch hunt-y divisive extreme political climate. so we can stop pretending that is their reason for choosing it.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:I do agree with Foo that we live in a society where you are guilty until proven innocent. That, he is totally right about.
Yep. Social media just fans the flames too.

I'm still bummed that Danny Masterson was fired from The Ranch even though there was an investigation and found nothing about his rape charges, from over a decade ago. But hey, the Social Media pitchfork & torches must be right.
Exactly. I don't know all of the details about his case, but if they have found nothing, there should not be a witch hunt.
Netlix admitted that they fired him because of the social pressure to after firing Kevin Spacy, too.

From what I remember reading, it was discovered that Danny's accuser was an ex girlfriend that was jealous he found someone else, and married that someone else.
Oh.....wow! Yeah, that ain't right at all.
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Jmac Attack wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote: D- Get any cool musical thangs lately?
Not really. Been focused on this graphic novel project. Still waiting on remaining beta readers to finish. If someone's going to volunteer, they really should commit to it, not string it out for months for a quick-easy read. Seriously, can be read in a fucking hour, all 7 issues.
That's cool you're writing though. My drummer bought me a DiMarzio Distortiin stacked P90 pickup for my* Les Paul.

*I sold the guitar to him for $200, but I get to use it whenever I want, ha
Cool. I downloaded that track your band put up (that was made available to download, not pirated like the Jiggys of the world :P ). "Ten Years From Now". Not fond of him going into growl vocals, because I think growl vocals just consistently sound like shit, but the guitar solos were tasty.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote: D- Get any cool musical thangs lately?
Not really. Been focused on this graphic novel project. Still waiting on remaining beta readers to finish. If someone's going to volunteer, they really should commit to it, not string it out for months for a quick-easy read. Seriously, can be read in a fucking hour, all 7 issues.
That's cool you're writing though. My drummer bought me a DiMarzio Distortiin stacked P90 pickup for my* Les Paul.

*I sold the guitar to him for $200, but I get to use it whenever I want, ha
Cool. I downloaded that track your band put up (that was made available to download, not pirated like the Jiggys of the world :P ). "Ten Years From Now". Not fond of him going into growl vocals, because I think growl vocals just consistently sound like shit, but the guitar solos were tasty.
Thanks man! Yeah, our singer is all over the place. He's new and learning. That was the first song he had ever helped write. Some have asked me if it's a fuck you to Trump, but it's a fuck you to the government in general. I told him it's ok to be political, but try not to be one sided.
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And it was written before Trump was president, lol
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Jmac Attack wrote:Ask Great Britian and conservatives about banning books. oh, my bad. . It's just liberals.
What did we do over here? Leave us out if your crazy nursing left-right bipolarization. Get some sense and balance back to your bloody politics, fools.
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Also it’s not like the majority of those now being alleged as having predatory sexual approaches are that innocent here. There’s a fuck ton of things coming to light from multiple sources. In Weinstein’s case it seems like hundreds of corroborating pieces of evidence. So not really a defense worth taking up I’d say.
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showa58taro wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Ask Great Britian and conservatives about banning books. oh, my bad. . It's just liberals.
What did we do over here? Leave us out if your crazy nursing left-right bipolarization. Get some sense and balance back to your bloody politics, fools.
Didn't Thatcher try banning a book or books back in the 80s? I remember reading about it in high school. Other than that, I agree with ya lol
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showa58taro wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:Ask Great Britian and conservatives about banning books. oh, my bad. . It's just liberals.
What did we do over here? Leave us out if your crazy nursing left-right bipolarization. Get some sense and balance back to your bloody politics, fools.
You have a fine history of banning horror movies.
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showa58taro wrote:Also it’s not like the majority of those now being alleged as having predatory sexual approaches are that innocent here. There’s a fuck ton of things coming to light from multiple sources. In Weinstein’s case it seems like hundreds of corroborating pieces of evidence. So not really a defense worth taking up I’d say.
If you offered $10,000 to every person who found a hair in their McDonald's french fries, wanna bet the number of hairs found goes way up?
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showa58taro wrote:Also it’s not like the majority of those now being alleged as having predatory sexual approaches are that innocent here. There’s a fuck ton of things coming to light from multiple sources. In Weinstein’s case it seems like hundreds of corroborating pieces of evidence. So not really a defense worth taking up I’d say.
a lot of those guys are probably guilty for much of what they're being accused of. add to that, that they are not denying it or fighting it, and it just makes it look worse. but there should still be a need for evidence, so that innocent people don't end up ruined too.
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zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Also it’s not like the majority of those now being alleged as having predatory sexual approaches are that innocent here. There’s a fuck ton of things coming to light from multiple sources. In Weinstein’s case it seems like hundreds of corroborating pieces of evidence. So not really a defense worth taking up I’d say.
a lot of those guys are probably guilty for much of what they're being accused of. add to that, that they are not denying it or fighting it, and it just makes it look worse. but there should still be a need for evidence, so that innocent people don't end up ruined too.
Actually, most have denied the non-consensual acts at least
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Also it’s not like the majority of those now being alleged as having predatory sexual approaches are that innocent here. There’s a fuck ton of things coming to light from multiple sources. In Weinstein’s case it seems like hundreds of corroborating pieces of evidence. So not really a defense worth taking up I’d say.
a lot of those guys are probably guilty for much of what they're being accused of. add to that, that they are not denying it or fighting it, and it just makes it look worse. but there should still be a need for evidence, so that innocent people don't end up ruined too.
Actually, most have denied the non-consensual acts at least
did weinstein deny what argento and judd and others accused him of? spacey didn't deny, just said he couldn't remember whether he had or not. at least as far as i saw.
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some public figures get accused and are either unscathed professionally or able to make a comeback. others are ruined. what makes the difference? largely, it seems that conservative or right leaning figures manage better when accused or even caught out right. but that's just a theory. :P
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Also it’s not like the majority of those now being alleged as having predatory sexual approaches are that innocent here. There’s a fuck ton of things coming to light from multiple sources. In Weinstein’s case it seems like hundreds of corroborating pieces of evidence. So not really a defense worth taking up I’d say.
a lot of those guys are probably guilty for much of what they're being accused of. add to that, that they are not denying it or fighting it, and it just makes it look worse. but there should still be a need for evidence, so that innocent people don't end up ruined too.
Actually, most have denied the non-consensual acts at least
did weinstein deny what argento and judd and others accused him of? spacey didn't deny, just said he couldn't remember whether he had or not. at least as far as i saw.
He has denied rape of any kind. He has also denied Ashley Judd and Mira Sorvinos claims of trying to sabotage their careers.

The Asia Argento story sounds ridiculous when she tells it. He allegedly orally raped her, she acted as though she liked it and faked an orgasm. After that...they went on many dates after, including introducing him to her parents. They had consensual sex and she asked him for loans and favors. This went on for months/years. It is the most iffy rape claim I have ever heard.
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zombie wrote:some public figures get accused and are either unscathed professionally or able to make a comeback. others are ruined. what makes the difference? largely, it seems that conservative or right leaning figures manage better when accused or even caught out right. but that's just a theory. :P
Roman Polanski butt raped an child and then fled the country to avoid prosecution. They stand up and applaud him. Woody Allen molests and statutory rapes his step daughter. They stand up and applaud him.

Donald Trump cheats on his wife with a willing adult and many of those same people who applaud would have him impeached.
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