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Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:52 pm
by Headhunter
Well, he doesn't call plays on offense for one . . .

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:05 pm
by Jason
Nah. He only provides opponent play sheets.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:12 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:Are we supposed to pretend that his playcalling doesn't result in uncovered receivers on almost every down?
The combination of good coaching and smart players who execute the same plays everyone else runs can be a thing of beauty. A QB who understands the offense, is patient, will throw guys open, etc. will also have that effect.

I guarantee Bronco receivers were open a lot this season because they have talented players. A QB not seeing them, not throwing on time, not throwing with accuracy, tends to make it look like guys are covered more than they are.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:17 pm
by Jason
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:Are we supposed to pretend that his playcalling doesn't result in uncovered receivers on almost every down?
The combination of good coaching and smart players who execute the same plays everyone else runs can be a thing of beauty. A QB who understands the offense, is patient, will throw guys open, etc. will also have that effect.

I guarantee Bronco receivers were open a lot this season because they have talented players. A QB not seeing them, not throwing on time, not throwing with accuracy, tends to make it look like guys are covered more than they are.
I can drive a corvette faster than Jeff Gordon can drive a Prius. I must be the better driver.

Denver QBs couldn't execute a basic five step drop without getting sacked. The o-line is the meat and potatoes of football. Always has been.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:18 pm
by Headhunter
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Average yards of separation for wide receivers at the QB's release this season. The Pats are actually close to the bottom. Also of note from this chart: Tyreek Hill is really really fast.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:24 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Image


Average yards of separation for wide receivers at the QB's release this season. The Pats are actually close to the bottom. Also of note from this chart: Tyreek Hill is really really fast.
Another useless stat. Only counts WR, doesn't account for how deep the throws are, etc... what about the crossing route where Brady hands it off to the receiver running in front of him in shotgun after the snap? How does the stat account for that?

More useless nonsense.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:27 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Image


Average yards of separation for wide receivers at the QB's release this season. The Pats are actually close to the bottom. Also of note from this chart: Tyreek Hill is really really fast.
Another useless stat. Only counts WR, doesn't account for how deep the throws are, etc... what about the crossing route where Brady hands it off to the receiver running in front of him in shotgun after the snap? How does the stat account for that?

More useless nonsense.
That's not what a crossing route is and it doesn't happen enough for it to make any statistical impact whatsoever, so it doesn't matter.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:34 pm
by Foo
And it makes perfect sense to only use WRs fir that kind of stat as they are always supposed to be covered, unlike a back that might block and float into space or even just be watched as part of an underneath zone.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:38 pm
by Foo
Just looked up Tyreek Hill highlights. He looks like a thicker Desean Jackson.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:44 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Image


Average yards of separation for wide receivers at the QB's release this season. The Pats are actually close to the bottom. Also of note from this chart: Tyreek Hill is really really fast.
Another useless stat. Only counts WR, doesn't account for how deep the throws are, etc... what about the crossing route where Brady hands it off to the receiver running in front of him in shotgun after the snap? How does the stat account for that?

More useless nonsense.
That's not what a crossing route is and it doesn't happen enough for it to make any statistical impact whatsoever, so it doesn't matter.
Doubtful they would count shovel passes anyway since the chart is meant to show coverage separation and that is not really coverage.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:57 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:Just looked up Tyreek Hill highlights. He looks like a thicker Desean Jackson.
Pretty much. Because of his build, he's more of a threat with swing passes/screens etc. but DeSean is still the best deep ball WR of his generation.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:02 am
by Tiggnutz
The only criteria for Quarterback greatness is the length of Wide receiver routes :lol:

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:51 am
by Jason
Ringz, u idiot

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:52 pm
by Jason
GB the internet.




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Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:48 pm
by Jason
20 years ago today...

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I remember exactly where I was.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:40 pm
by Jmac Attack
Jason wrote:20 years ago today...

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I remember exactly where I was.
I was at my buddy, Frostys house. We called him Frosty because he looked like the abominable snowman monster in frosty the snowman. Lol.

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:10 am
by showa58taro
Who is that?

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:33 am
by Jason
Actual GOAT

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:08 am
by Tiggnutz
showa58taro wrote:Who is that?
The 3rd best Quarterback ever

Re: NFL 2017 season

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:20 pm
by showa58taro
Tiggnutz wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Who is that?
The 3rd best Quarterback ever
Rich Gannon never played for Denver.