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Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:03 pm
by showa58taro
https://theintercept.com/2017/10/02/lon ... n-paddock/


Valid point. Only white shooters get this pass.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:31 pm
by zombie
let me ask if there are any white members of antifa? the answer is yes. is antifa considered a terrorist organization? again, yes.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:44 pm
by zombie
there is definitely a tendency to cast blame on all muslims or on all blacks etc. when a perpetrator happens to fall into those groups. but it happens with white people too. though largely, it's because of their gender, profession, or political affiliation, more than their skin color. (though that does happen too) it needs to stop on all fronts. judge the individual for their actions. don't use it as a way to enforce your bias' or to crack down on all people that share whatever same trait as the attacker.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:45 pm
by Jason
Did any of yall nigz hear about the black dude that went into a church in Tennessee a couple weeks ago and shot a bunch of white people out of revenge for the Dylan Roof shooting? ... ... ... No? ... ... Nobody heard about it?

Didn't think so. Good job, media.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:40 pm
by Jigsaw
I have. White people are terrible, though. Sorry, Jason. Your and your kind are done.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:41 pm
by Jigsaw
A joke, obviously, though I know plenty of white people will take it seriously.

The media is atrocious for many reasons - but I indeed heard about the shooting just after it happened. So sorry, Jason, but you're #wrong.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:48 pm
by Headhunter
I heard about it too. Horrible, luckily it looks like only one person was killed. But we have mass shootings almost every day, not surprising when some of the stories are drowned out.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:50 pm
by Jigsaw
We, as a country, have been at war for years upon years. Shootings happen almost every day. So it makes complete sense that not every single one gets reported on, which only desensitizes us further,

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:57 pm
by Headhunter
Yeah this is such a "like duh obviously" thing. Of course some stories like Las Vegas, Orlando, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Aurora and Charleston were given more media attention. Significantly more people were killed in those instances. The problem with mass shootings is so bad you have to brush aside the ones where one or a few people are killed because there will be another one with double digit kills around the corner. Or else you'd have a never-ending daily mass shooting hysteria that would totally dominate the news cycle forever.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:29 pm
by zombie
i don't think that missing news of an attack is about desensitization. and i do not think that we should let ourselves be desensitized to these tragedies, regardless of how often they happen.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:39 pm
by Headhunter
Not desensitization, that comes from the public. It's prioritization. One person dying in a shooting in the U.S. is not news, it's a fact of life in this country. Would be like reporting that the sun rose.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:11 pm
by Foo

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:50 pm
by Headhunter

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:14 pm
by Foo
BTW, being called a "Lone Wolf" is not getting a pass. It simply means he is not part of a group. More often than not, Muslim terrorists belong to a group. There are Muslim Lone Wolves, however.

Also, it is not difficult to understand when you simply look at views among demographics. Muslims are more apt to believe violence in the name of religion is justified. This is fact. So Muslims are more likely to join groups that enable them. There are very few predominantly white groups that share such a philosophy, so you tend to see more white lone wolves. Even the KKK does not advocate that type of violence.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:30 pm
by zombie
but the point seb was trying to get at, is that lone wolves are taken to indicate a problem with the whole. i mean chicago gangs do some shit and then somehow that casts blame onto the black community in general.

and i don't agree that this is just something that is done to minorities. it needs to stop on all sides. take people as individuals )unless they identify as part of a group like antifa or kkk or isis or something) because trump is a white man does not mean every white male is guilty for his actions or opinions. because lena dunham is a liberal does not mean that all liberals are guilty for her actions or opinions. etc. and those are both lesser issues than the massacre that happened in vegas, but it's still indicative of a problem going on culturally.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:31 pm
by Jason
He had CIA connections. Uh-oh.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:43 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:but the point seb was trying to get at, is that lone wolves are taken to indicate a problem with the whole. i mean chicago gangs do some shit and then somehow that casts blame onto the black community in general.

and i don't agree that this is just something that is done to minorities. it needs to stop on all sides. take people as individuals )unless they identify as part of a group like antifa or kkk or isis or something) because trump is a white man does not mean every white male is guilty for his actions or opinions. because lena dunham is a liberal does not mean that all liberals are guilty for her actions or opinions. etc. and those are both lesser issues than the massacre that happened in vegas, but it's still indicative of a problem going on culturally.
Consider the real double standard at play, though. The claim of white privilege. Articles like the junk Seb posted, and articles like this one:

http://www.newsweek.com/white-men-have- ... oup-675602

So...even when trying to condemn whites, the best statistic they come up with is they represent 54% of mass shooters.

Yet...they make up over 60% of the population, and as much as 76% of the population:

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicat ... 2asc%22%7D

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /PST045216

This is in stark contrast to gang related shootings and violence in general, in which black folks make up a small percentage of the population while committing those crimes at astronomical rates.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:08 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:but the point seb was trying to get at, is that lone wolves are taken to indicate a problem with the whole. i mean chicago gangs do some shit and then somehow that casts blame onto the black community in general.

and i don't agree that this is just something that is done to minorities. it needs to stop on all sides. take people as individuals )unless they identify as part of a group like antifa or kkk or isis or something) because trump is a white man does not mean every white male is guilty for his actions or opinions. because lena dunham is a liberal does not mean that all liberals are guilty for her actions or opinions. etc. and those are both lesser issues than the massacre that happened in vegas, but it's still indicative of a problem going on culturally.
Consider the real double standard at play, though. The claim of white privilege. Articles like the junk Seb posted, and articles like this one:

http://www.newsweek.com/white-men-have- ... oup-675602

So...even when trying to condemn whites, the best statistic they come up with is they represent 54% of mass shooters.

Yet...they make up over 60% of the population, and as much as 76% of the population:

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicat ... 2asc%22%7D

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /PST045216

This is in stark contrast to gang related shootings and violence in general, in which black folks make up a small percentage of the population while committing those crimes at astronomical rates.
so, let's ask denzel washington and morgan freeman why black people kill each other. it's seems like a dick move to generalize like this, but do what you want.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:34 am
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:but the point seb was trying to get at, is that lone wolves are taken to indicate a problem with the whole. i mean chicago gangs do some shit and then somehow that casts blame onto the black community in general.

and i don't agree that this is just something that is done to minorities. it needs to stop on all sides. take people as individuals )unless they identify as part of a group like antifa or kkk or isis or something) because trump is a white man does not mean every white male is guilty for his actions or opinions. because lena dunham is a liberal does not mean that all liberals are guilty for her actions or opinions. etc. and those are both lesser issues than the massacre that happened in vegas, but it's still indicative of a problem going on culturally.
Consider the real double standard at play, though. The claim of white privilege. Articles like the junk Seb posted, and articles like this one:

http://www.newsweek.com/white-men-have- ... oup-675602

So...even when trying to condemn whites, the best statistic they come up with is they represent 54% of mass shooters.

Yet...they make up over 60% of the population, and as much as 76% of the population:

https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicat ... 2asc%22%7D

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/ ... /PST045216

This is in stark contrast to gang related shootings and violence in general, in which black folks make up a small percentage of the population while committing those crimes at astronomical rates.
so, let's ask denzel washington and morgan freeman why black people kill each other. it's seems like a dick move to generalize like this, but do what you want.
Demonizing white people is what social justice is boiling down to. Just saying...

You can say anything about white people and it is fine, but say anything about a group who is even coincidentally primarily black and racism in invoked.

Re: Lone White Wolf

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:15 am
by showa58taro
You guys have literally made the point for us with your “but blacks” argument. Lol