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Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:41 pm
by zombie
what would be the closest modern equivalent (as far as themes and atmosphere goes) to your favorite classics, in your estimation? like alien, the shining, halloween, psycho, the exorcist, nightmare on elm street. etc?
cinefix compared the descent to alien, as an example.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:47 pm
by Jason
Alien and Descent are both overrated to high hell, so I can see the comparison. lol.
The Devil's Rejects kinda feels like TCSM 2, I guess.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:03 pm
by Reign in Blood
You gotta an eye problem, J. You need to see yourself straight the fuck outta this thread.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:32 pm
by Jason
Reign in Blood wrote:You gotta an eye problem, J. You need to see yourself straight the fuck outta this thread.
You gotta an grammar problem.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:29 am
by showa58taro
zombie wrote:what would be the closest modern equivalent (as far as themes and atmosphere goes) to your favorite classics, in your estimation? like alien, the shining, halloween, psycho, the exorcist, nightmare on elm street. etc?
cinefix compared the descent to alien, as an example.
The Exorcist probably has the most obvious parables with all the possessed children movies that were out a while back. I don't know that I consider them as good, but still, that one is obvious but nobody has come close to the Exorcist for achieving it.
It's hard with the others, often I think they are homage into similarities, more than BEING similar. Like some of the stuff they do in IT definitely relies on some of the groundwork laid out by NOES. Some of the stuff Kubrick established with The Shining clearly played into a few of the creepy atmospheric horrors of the modern day.
I think Alien and Pandorum are a more natural comparative, personally, but can agree with that.
There's probably a few others that I can't think of.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:00 am
by Foo
When begins the modern era?
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:03 am
by zombie
i was thinking from 2000 forward, for simplification purpose. but if you have a different idea about it, let me know?
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:03 am
by Jigsaw
Foo wrote:When begins the modern era?
1912 tbh.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:04 am
by zombie
Jigsaw wrote:Foo wrote:When begins the modern era?
1912 tbh.
maybe modern as terms of culture and technology. but not movies.

Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:09 am
by Jigsaw
zombie wrote:Jigsaw wrote:Foo wrote:When begins the modern era?
1912 tbh.
maybe modern as terms of culture and technology. but not movies.

Probably a good thing. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any horror flicks from 1912 that aren't lost.

Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:25 am
by Foo
zombie wrote:i was thinking from 2000 forward, for simplification purpose. but if you have a different idea about it, let me know?
I am not sure arbitrarily picking a year with a round number is as significant as other events that could define it. Also, because "modern" is ever shifting, I would disavow the term for this purpose. Would like to see a discussion about defining eras.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:28 am
by zombie
Foo wrote:zombie wrote:i was thinking from 2000 forward, for simplification purpose. but if you have a different idea about it, let me know?
I am not sure arbitrarily picking a year with a round number is as significant as other events that could define it. Also, because "modern" is ever shifting, I would disavow the term for this purpose. Would like to see a discussion about defining eras.
uh huh. that was for simplification purposes, as i said before. i guess the modern era, as far as horror goes, would really start with scream or something.
a discussion about defining eras would be cool to get into. the topic, as it started, seems to be bust.

Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:46 pm
by zombie
the standard seems to be that the modern era started with psycho. but 1960 was a long time ago.

and i guess before that, it was the classic or gothic era. and then before that, the silent era.
when would you consider the modern era to be?
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:53 pm
by Reign in Blood
zombie wrote:the standard seems to be that the modern era started with psycho. but 1960 was a long time ago.

and i guess before that, it was the classic or gothic era. and then before that, the silent era.
when would you consider the modern era to be?
I thought you were okay with saying Scream, but even that is dated as hell to call it "modern". What's the first big horror to feature smart phones? Even in passing, no need to be featured in the plot at all. I'd arbitrarily start there and look at the landscape.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:05 pm
by showa58taro
I don't know what constitutes modern, but I don't see why post-2000 doesn't count for this purpose.
Re: Modern to Classic comparison
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:07 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote:zombie wrote:the standard seems to be that the modern era started with psycho. but 1960 was a long time ago.

and i guess before that, it was the classic or gothic era. and then before that, the silent era.
when would you consider the modern era to be?
I thought you were okay with saying Scream, but even that is dated as hell to call it "modern". What's the first big horror to feature smart phones? Even in passing, no need to be featured in the plot at all. I'd arbitrarily start there and look at the landscape.
i do think scream is the start of the modern era. but no one was biting, so i thought i'd try again with a different perspective than my own.
i can't speak for the smart phone inclusion. i guess i don't pay close attention to details like that.