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Free Anwar! Free Anwar! Free Anwar! This hero to the community should not be in jail.

Free a murderer? Weird stance.

showa58taro wrote:Free a murderer? Weird stance.

He shot a thief. Deserves a medal, not jail.

Conservatives mentally are 8 year old boys lusting for a Cops and Robbers/Cowboys and Indians world.

When your whole ethos on justice is derived from 1970s action movies made by Hollywood liberal cucks >>>

If he had shot the kid in the store, I'd be on Foo's side of this argument. Or if the guy had just called cops and told them he fired at the kid and didn't know if he hit him or not. As it stands he should face involuntary manslaughter at most.

Foo wrote:

showa58taro wrote:Free a murderer? Weird stance.

He shot a thief. Deserves a medal, not jail.

You are trolling I assume. Weird troll job though. But trolling notwithstanding.

Leaving the store to confront the thief was a terrible decision and leaves him at fault but I cant understand seeking a first degree murder charge. That is clearly an overreach based on emotion.

Tiggnutz wrote:Leaving the store to confront the thief was a terrible decision and leaves him at fault but I cant understand seeking a first degree murder charge. That is clearly an overreach based on emotion.

How is hunting someone down and shooting them not murder? It’s not like he can claim self defense.

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Leaving the store to confront the thief was a terrible decision and leaves him at fault but I cant understand seeking a first degree murder charge. That is clearly an overreach based on emotion.

How is hunting someone down and shooting them not murder? It’s not like he can claim self defense.

I didn't say it wasn't murder I said it wasn’t first degree murder. It's at best second degree murder. First degree is premeditated and second degree is not.

showa58taro wrote:

Foo wrote:

showa58taro wrote:Free a murderer? Weird stance.

He shot a thief. Deserves a medal, not jail.

You are trolling I assume. Weird troll job though. But trolling notwithstanding.

A brainwashing job on society has been done that allows people to think crimes like stealing are somehow not serious. This attitude destroys entire communities. Wanna bet that store is already built like a jail because of it, with bars on the windows and security measures everywhere? Theft is a blight on those communities.

The thief's grandma will surely come crawling out from under her rock talking about how he was a good boy and getting his life together, and how he was gonna go back to school and become a doctor. His friends will use the worst grammar ever to say he did not deserve to die over a beer.

Guess what, he took the risk when he stole. Living the thug life rarely ends well, just sad the victim in this story had to face the police.

I have no pity for the kid thieves get shot all the time it's a risky hobby and the dramatic response probably comes from being robbed regularly but the shooter also fucked up and has to answer for his actions.

Tiggnutz wrote:I have no pity for the kid thieves get shot all the time it's a risky hobby and the dramatic response probably comes from being robbed regularly but the shooter also fucked up and has to answer for his actions.

He hit his target. Maybe fine him for littering since he left his trash in the alley.

Good strategy. If he blew his brains out in the store, he could have damaged inventory. This way nothing of value was lost.

On a serious note, we should also examine why he lacks any faith in the police there, and why he did not call them after shooting.

I tell ya what, if that guy shot your kid or wife while shooting a kid for stealing a beer while running after him, I think the tone would shift. Maybe it's me, but this sounds irresponsible as all fuck. This isn't Death Wish part 16.

Now I need a Charles Bronson marathon.

It will be impossible to prove first degree murder in this case.

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Leaving the store to confront the thief was a terrible decision and leaves him at fault but I cant understand seeking a first degree murder charge. That is clearly an overreach based on emotion.

How is hunting someone down and shooting them not murder? It’s not like he can claim self defense.

I didn't say it wasn't murder I said it wasn’t first degree murder. It's at best second degree murder. First degree is premeditated and second degree is not.

Sounds like a weird semantic argument. It does seem like 2nd degree then. Unless having the gun there and ready is premeditation.

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Leaving the store to confront the thief was a terrible decision and leaves him at fault but I cant understand seeking a first degree murder charge. That is clearly an overreach based on emotion.

How is hunting someone down and shooting them not murder? It’s not like he can claim self defense.

I didn't say it wasn't murder I said it wasn’t first degree murder. It's at best second degree murder. First degree is premeditated and second degree is not.

Sounds like a weird semantic argument. It does seem like 2nd degree then. Unless having the gun there and ready is premeditation.

It will probably be dropped down to voluntary manslaughter before trial if the prosecutor has any sense.

Jmac Attack wrote:I tell ya what, if that guy shot your kid or wife while shooting a kid for stealing a beer while running after him, I think the tone would shift. Maybe it's me, but this sounds irresponsible as all fuck. This isn't Death Wish part 16.

Now I need a Charles Bronson marathon.

Sure, but he didn't. He shot the person who deserved to be shot.

What if you ran over someone in a car on the way to work? It could be a crime, but you didn't.

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Leaving the store to confront the thief was a terrible decision and leaves him at fault but I cant understand seeking a first degree murder charge. That is clearly an overreach based on emotion.

How is hunting someone down and shooting them not murder? It’s not like he can claim self defense.

I didn't say it wasn't murder I said it wasn’t first degree murder. It's at best second degree murder. First degree is premeditated and second degree is not.

Sounds like a weird semantic argument. It does seem like 2nd degree then. Unless having the gun there and ready is premeditation.

It will probably be dropped down to voluntary manslaughter before trial if the prosecutor has any sense.

I am thinking plea bargain for probation. Dude doesn't deserve jail. Just tell him next time to shoot him in the face right in the store and it won't be an issue.

Foo wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Leaving the store to confront the thief was a terrible decision and leaves him at fault but I cant understand seeking a first degree murder charge. That is clearly an overreach based on emotion.

How is hunting someone down and shooting them not murder? It’s not like he can claim self defense.

I didn't say it wasn't murder I said it wasn’t first degree murder. It's at best second degree murder. First degree is premeditated and second degree is not.

Sounds like a weird semantic argument. It does seem like 2nd degree then. Unless having the gun there and ready is premeditation.

It will probably be dropped down to voluntary manslaughter before trial if the prosecutor has any sense.

I am thinking plea bargain for probation. Dude doesn't deserve jail. Just tell him next time to shoot him in the face right in the store and it won't be an issue.

You can't kill people for shoplifting man its not the middle ages.