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Thoughts on battling depression?

Jason wrote:Thoughts on battling depression?

Do things that make you happy like movies and video games I also get comfort from my dog. It doesn't take away the depression but it gets me through.

my best advice is to find someone to talk to, who is willing to listen and not judge. don't bottle it up. but aside from that, everyone is different. it hits everyone differently. what are you feeling? (pm me if you wanna? i'd like to help if i can)

I have nothing to talk about to anybody. I watch movies and listen to music, but I don't seem to get anything out of them like I used to. Emptiness is really the only way I can describe it... or maybe "emotional purgatory".

i find myself not really watching a lot of my favorites any more, particularly with non-horror. it does happen with horror too, but it's less so. so i can relate a little bit.

Jason wrote:I have nothing to talk about to anybody. I watch movies and listen to music, but I don't seem to get anything out of them like I used to. Emptiness is really the only way I can describe it... or maybe "emotional purgatory".

I go through phases of this exact same thing and feelings.

I've been this way for a few years.

i've always felt depression or anxiety. it manifests differently and there are times that it's more handle-able, but it's still there.

Find purpose in life. Fulfill realistic dreams and aspirations. Work towards goals.

Limit things like tv, movies, internet, and video games.

No one has ever been laying on their deathbed at 80 years old wishing they watched more tv.

Foo wrote:Limit things like tv, movies, internet, and video games.

No one has ever been laying on their deathbed at 80 years old wishing they watched more tv.

i think that kind of misses the point. movies and video games and tv can serve as a distraction or even comfort, catharsis. it may not, but the chance is there.

but if you do have the will and drive to work toward a goal, and that works to abate your depression. go for it, absolutely!

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Limit things like tv, movies, internet, and video games.

No one has ever been laying on their deathbed at 80 years old wishing they watched more tv.

i think that kind of misses the point. movies and video games and tv can serve as a distraction or even comfort, catharsis. it may not, but the chance is there.

but if you do have the will and drive to work toward a goal, and that works to abate your depression. go for it, absolutely!

I believe the massive amounts of media we consume are a driving force behind these issues. Escape has replaced accomplishment. Show me ten binge tv watchers and I will show you 8 depressed people.

All this media is making us prisoners of our own mind. We are curious creatures who like to build and explore. Sitting there and watching tv or playing video games is like putting a cheetah in a tiny cage and wondering why it is not happy.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Limit things like tv, movies, internet, and video games.

No one has ever been laying on their deathbed at 80 years old wishing they watched more tv.

i think that kind of misses the point. movies and video games and tv can serve as a distraction or even comfort, catharsis. it may not, but the chance is there.

but if you do have the will and drive to work toward a goal, and that works to abate your depression. go for it, absolutely!

I believe the massive amounts of media we consume are a driving force behind these issues. Escape has replaced accomplishment. Show me ten binge tv watchers and I will show you 8 depressed people.

All this media is making us prisoners of our own mind. We are curious creatures who like to build and explore. Sitting there and watching tv or playing video games is like putting a cheetah in a tiny cage and wondering why it is not happy.

for many, this could be the equivalent of "just eat less?". people do like to create and build and explore. but you have to take into account why the person is not doing those things. there could be underlying issues that need to be addressed, or at least need to be understood to look for a solution. also, could be stuck in a situation that does not allow those things too, in the way that you want to do them.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Limit things like tv, movies, internet, and video games.

No one has ever been laying on their deathbed at 80 years old wishing they watched more tv.

i think that kind of misses the point. movies and video games and tv can serve as a distraction or even comfort, catharsis. it may not, but the chance is there.

but if you do have the will and drive to work toward a goal, and that works to abate your depression. go for it, absolutely!

I believe the massive amounts of media we consume are a driving force behind these issues. Escape has replaced accomplishment. Show me ten binge tv watchers and I will show you 8 depressed people.

All this media is making us prisoners of our own mind. We are curious creatures who like to build and explore. Sitting there and watching tv or playing video games is like putting a cheetah in a tiny cage and wondering why it is not happy.

for many, this could be the equivalent of "just eat less?". people do like to create and build and explore. but you have to take into account why the person is not doing those things. there could be underlying issues that need to be addressed, or at least need to be understood to look for a solution. also, could be stuck in a situation that does not allow those things too, in the way that you want to do them.

They need to say to themselves, enough is enough, and start doing. Why does one person decide to make life changes and another doesn't?

And yes, fat people eat too much. My weight goes up and down. When it goes up it is because I eat too much. Do the underlying reasons really matter in the end? Not really, I just have to decide to eat less and better. Is some voodoo therapy bullshit more effective at getting you to do the same thing you already know you need to do? I guess it depends on the person.

Do you think any 300 pound woman gets in shape easily? Of course not, but the one who does had the desire, and the one who doesn't chose the easier path.

And to be clear, I am not saying people should not enjoy entertainment. I am saying the depression and anxiety seems to mirror the high rates of consumption.

People once went to the movies occasionally. Then they watched a couple hours of tv a night. Now they watch 80 hours a week, take breaks from it by playing video games or going out to watch more movies. Companies are literally gearing their production to people who will binge watch 12 hours of something in a weekend. When is it enough?

Foo wrote:
They need to say to themselves, enough is enough, and start doing. Why does one person decide to make life changes and another doesn't?

And yes, fat people eat too much. My weight goes up and down. When it goes up it is because I eat too much. Do the underlying reasons really matter in the end? Not really, I just have to decide to eat less and better. Is some voodoo therapy bullshit more effective at getting you to do the same thing you already know you need to do? I guess it depends on the person.

Do you think any 300 pound woman gets in shape easily? Of course not, but the one who does had the desire, and the one who doesn't chose the easier path.

i was thinking more that they already know that they need to eat less, or that they need to get out of their head more. but there are issues getting in the way, or holding them back.

why does one person decide to make life changes and another doesn't? that is a good place to start. it's a lot to unpack, and it varies from person to person. but it is a good discussion to have.

Foo wrote:And to be clear, I am not saying people should not enjoy entertainment. I am saying the depression and anxiety seems to mirror the high rates of consumption.

People once went to the movies occasionally. Then they watched a couple hours of tv a night. Now they watch 80 hours a week, take breaks from it by playing video games or going out to watch more movies. Companies are literally gearing their production to people who will binge watch 12 hours of something in a weekend. When is it enough?

so, entertainment consumption is the cause of depression? what about someone like jason, or like me, that doesn't find the same enjoyment with it that we used to. so probably watches it less as a result. the depression caused us to not watch, like we would otherwise. how would you help us out? what would you say is the problem?

What works for me is routine. I do the same thing every day, eat the same meals every day. I exercise, which helps greatly, too. The thing is, what works for me, might not work for you. Some people are good just taking some pills. I tried that, didn't do shit. I tried therapy, didn't do shit(if anything, it made me more depressed). There's plenty of shit out there on what to do for depression. I say just start trying shit and see what works.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:
They need to say to themselves, enough is enough, and start doing. Why does one person decide to make life changes and another doesn't?

And yes, fat people eat too much. My weight goes up and down. When it goes up it is because I eat too much. Do the underlying reasons really matter in the end? Not really, I just have to decide to eat less and better. Is some voodoo therapy bullshit more effective at getting you to do the same thing you already know you need to do? I guess it depends on the person.

Do you think any 300 pound woman gets in shape easily? Of course not, but the one who does had the desire, and the one who doesn't chose the easier path.

i was thinking more that they already know that they need to eat less, or that they need to get out of their head more. but there are issues getting in the way, or holding them back.

why does one person decide to make life changes and another doesn't? that is a good place to start. it's a lot to unpack, and it varies from person to person. but it is a good discussion to have.

I see a problem when we start treating all issues the same way. For instance, a person who is confined to a wheelchair and is taking prescribed steroids is not the same as someone who has daddy issues. Society is having a real problem not stating the truth on this stuff.

Because willpower is a thing. Focus is a thing. They cannot be given only inspired. A bit of irony I find in society is that I notice a large chunk of people who readily recognize they are pawns used by power players in the world when it comes to using their labor and such, but don't see it when they are watching Netflix or standing on a line at the theater. The creators are wealthy while the slaves keep pumping in the cash in exchange for bits of escape. They are experiencing life while the underlings are consuming their product.