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It is getting such good numbers, it might become a Tier 2 influencer. I wonder what direction the influence mostly veers to.

what do you consider first tier and second tier, in terms of actual numbers?

zombie wrote:what do you consider first tier and second tier, in terms of actual numbers?

I think to move into the first tier you would need to be at least in the neighborhood of top 100 adjusted. The Exorcist and Jaws and 7 and 9 respectively. Top tier is tentpole type of business.

Tier 2 I would look around the $200 million adjusted mark. This would be the area where studios would bring it up in investor conference calls, still actively similar properties to develop, etc.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:what do you consider first tier and second tier, in terms of actual numbers?

I think to move into the first tier you would need to be at least in the neighborhood of top 100 adjusted. The Exorcist and Jaws and 7 and 9 respectively. Top tier is tentpole type of business.

Tier 2 I would look around the $200 million adjusted mark. This would be the area where studios would bring it up in investor conference calls, still actively similar properties to develop, etc.

top 100 altogether? (as in not just horror) that's pretty good, if the exorcist is really #7.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:what do you consider first tier and second tier, in terms of actual numbers?

I think to move into the first tier you would need to be at least in the neighborhood of top 100 adjusted. The Exorcist and Jaws and 7 and 9 respectively. Top tier is tentpole type of business.

Tier 2 I would look around the $200 million adjusted mark. This would be the area where studios would bring it up in investor conference calls, still actively similar properties to develop, etc.

top 100 altogether? (as in not just horror) that's pretty good, if the exorcist is really #7.

Yeah, to be a top influencer you have to be firmly mainstream in terms of draw. We have never seen a movie like the Exorcist in terms of content and appeal.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:what do you consider first tier and second tier, in terms of actual numbers?

I think to move into the first tier you would need to be at least in the neighborhood of top 100 adjusted. The Exorcist and Jaws and 7 and 9 respectively. Top tier is tentpole type of business.

Tier 2 I would look around the $200 million adjusted mark. This would be the area where studios would bring it up in investor conference calls, still actively similar properties to develop, etc.

top 100 altogether? (as in not just horror) that's pretty good, if the exorcist is really #7.

Yeah, to be a top influencer you have to be firmly mainstream in terms of draw. We have never seen a movie like the Exorcist in terms of content and appeal.

the exorcist, jaws, and the sixth sense seem to be the only horror flicks in the top 100. (sixth sense is even pushing it)

are you saying that getting less than that, means that investors won't bother with your movie as far as influence and such? because that seems dishonest.

Are you saying you have literally not read anything I have written and then just made that assertion?

also, is there a list for worldwide take with inflation? that would seem more accurate.

Foo wrote:Are you saying you have literally not read anything I have written and then just made that assertion?

sorry, tier 2 was included. my mistake. but even then, halloween is a tier 3 by your metric? and it has an influence on investors and such.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Are you saying you have literally not read anything I have written and then just made that assertion?

sorry, tier 2 was included. my mistake. but even then, halloween is a tier 3 by your metric? and it has an influence on investors and such.

Ok, the fact that I put it on a tier would indicate a level of influence, yes? Let me simplify.

Tier 1- Total game changer. Possible once in a lifetime level of business in the genre. Reach extends to be part of the mainstream consciousness, a measuring stick by what everything else is measured, etc.

Tier 2 - a mega hit in its own right. Known beyond the genre and by casual movie fans. Is a topic of discussion within the industry.

Tier 3 - a hit movie, still spawns imitation, but likely with tight budget restraints and closer replicating the formula.

Tiers of business influence go on further, even to points of negative influence. Certainly anything in the top 3-5 tiers can be meaningful depending on production costs and so forth. On the lower end of positive influence could be as small as direct to consumer sequels.

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:Get Out is definitely not the top horror movie for me this year anymore (not that I saw any other new ones).

I thought Dunkirk - Nevermind. :p

IT might actually be the first horror movie I've seen of 2017, unless an obvious one went over my head.

showa58taro wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:

showa58taro wrote:Saw a funny meme that I tried to post but it was HUGE when I just screencapoed it on my phone.

Apparently It in the book emerges every 27 years.

Tv series was in 1990. Film is in 2017

Yep, that's been noticed

Also, Skarsgard jr was born in 1990...

Let the coincidences fly!

I'm tempted to go see this. If I can't enjoy this maybecive lost the horror spark for good.

Yeah, I don't know where you got the genericness from the trailer, but if it's what you think it's what you think. If that's generic, I wish I could get my hands on more of this generic these days

It was just a gut feeling. I think it was most obvious from Evil Dead the remake. It felt well-made but lacked a lot of the "charm" I like in a horror film.

I feel this was definitely more enjoyable than the Evil Dead remake.

Oh right, 47 Meters Down was theatrically released, officially, this year. Flickchart has it listed for last year because of the damn festival circuit.

Right now (for Horror) for me:

1. It
2. Get Out
3. 47 Meters Down

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Are you saying you have literally not read anything I have written and then just made that assertion?

sorry, tier 2 was included. my mistake. but even then, halloween is a tier 3 by your metric? and it has an influence on investors and such.

Ok, the fact that I put it on a tier would indicate a level of influence, yes? Let me simplify.

Tier 1- Total game changer. Possible once in a lifetime level of business in the genre. Reach extends to be part of the mainstream consciousness, a measuring stick by what everything else is measured, etc.

Tier 2 - a mega hit in its own right. Known beyond the genre and by casual movie fans. Is a topic of discussion within the industry.

Tier 3 - a hit movie, still spawns imitation, but likely with tight budget restraints and closer replicating the formula.

Tiers of business influence go on further, even to points of negative influence. Certainly anything in the top 3-5 tiers can be meaningful depending on production costs and so forth. On the lower end of positive influence could be as small as direct to consumer sequels.

it just seems like you're putting a weird spin on what the numbers mean, particularly beyond your tier 1.

showa58taro wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:

showa58taro wrote:Saw a funny meme that I tried to post but it was HUGE when I just screencapoed it on my phone.

Apparently It in the book emerges every 27 years.

Tv series was in 1990. Film is in 2017

Yep, that's been noticed

Also, Skarsgard jr was born in 1990...

Let the coincidences fly!

I'm tempted to go see this. If I can't enjoy this maybecive lost the horror spark for good.

I thought you said you were going to the theater yesterday??

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:

showa58taro wrote:Saw a funny meme that I tried to post but it was HUGE when I just screencapoed it on my phone.

Apparently It in the book emerges every 27 years.

Tv series was in 1990. Film is in 2017

Yep, that's been noticed

Also, Skarsgard jr was born in 1990...

Let the coincidences fly!

I'm tempted to go see this. If I can't enjoy this maybecive lost the horror spark for good.

Yeah, I don't know where you got the genericness from the trailer, but if it's what you think it's what you think. If that's generic, I wish I could get my hands on more of this generic these days

It was just a gut feeling. I think it was most obvious from Evil Dead the remake. It felt well-made but lacked a lot of the "charm" I like in a horror film.

I feel this was definitely more enjoyable than the Evil Dead remake.

I felt OK with the Evil Dead remake, leaving the theater. Cooled off significantly, then I rewatched it in an Evil Dead marathon a year or two ago and I just didn't really like it.

Consensus I'm getting from IT are not spectacular, but at minimum pretty damn good. The only negative review is from Slaughter.

Jigsaw wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Slaughterhouserock wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:It Follows was ok. I have seen it three times already, and same result every time. Now, Insidious.....that there is a great modern horror movie.

I agree that It Follows was ok, but Insidious was laughably bad.

I think Jig, Jason, and I were the only ones who dug it.

Whoa, Nelly.

I haven't even seen Insidious, and truth be told, it's not high on my interest list.

Lol. I must be thinking of another movie. You should check it out though. I wanted to hate it.

Jmac Attack wrote:

Jigsaw wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Slaughterhouserock wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:It Follows was ok. I have seen it three times already, and same result every time. Now, Insidious.....that there is a great modern horror movie.

I agree that It Follows was ok, but Insidious was laughably bad.

I think Jig, Jason, and I were the only ones who dug it.

Whoa, Nelly.

I haven't even seen Insidious, and truth be told, it's not high on my interest list.

Lol. I must be thinking of another movie. You should check it out though. I wanted to hate it.

insidious is good from what i remember.

zombie wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Jigsaw wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Slaughterhouserock wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:It Follows was ok. I have seen it three times already, and same result every time. Now, Insidious.....that there is a great modern horror movie.

I agree that It Follows was ok, but Insidious was laughably bad.

I think Jig, Jason, and I were the only ones who dug it.

Whoa, Nelly.

I haven't even seen Insidious, and truth be told, it's not high on my interest list.

Lol. I must be thinking of another movie. You should check it out though. I wanted to hate it.

insidious is good from what i remember.

Part two was shit though, from what I remember.

Jmac Attack wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Jigsaw wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Slaughterhouserock wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:It Follows was ok. I have seen it three times already, and same result every time. Now, Insidious.....that there is a great modern horror movie.

I agree that It Follows was ok, but Insidious was laughably bad.

I think Jig, Jason, and I were the only ones who dug it.

Whoa, Nelly.

I haven't even seen Insidious, and truth be told, it's not high on my interest list.

Lol. I must be thinking of another movie. You should check it out though. I wanted to hate it.

insidious is good from what i remember.

Part two was shit though, from what I remember.

don't you dare!

i haven't seen it.