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Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:21 am
by Foo
https://www.yahoo.com/news/activist-hel ... 44129.html

Fairly young too. No weed smokers were awakened.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:51 am
by Tiggnutz
Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/activist-hel ... 44129.html

Fairly young too. No weed smokers were awakened.
I no longer smoke but i still consider him a brave champion of healing. If more people would of started listening to him decades ago we might of diverted this opioid shit storm we now find ourselves in.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:17 am
by Jason
And get lung cancer instead. Lol

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:27 am
by Tiggnutz
Jason wrote:And get lung cancer instead. Lol
People who never smoked anything die from lung cancer how many people who never tried an opioid overdose because of it.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:48 am
by Foo
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/activist-hel ... 44129.html

Fairly young too. No weed smokers were awakened.
I no longer smoke but i still consider him a brave champion of healing. If more people would of started listening to him decades ago we might of diverted this opioid shit storm we now find ourselves in.
I doubt it simply because the opiod crisis has continued heating up as marijuana has become easier to obtain and use. It is a cultural thing. We are in an instant gratification society, and drugs fit it like a glove.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:21 pm
by Tiggnutz
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/activist-hel ... 44129.html

Fairly young too. No weed smokers were awakened.
I no longer smoke but i still consider him a brave champion of healing. If more people would of started listening to him decades ago we might of diverted this opioid shit storm we now find ourselves in.
I doubt it simply because the opiod crisis has continued heating up as marijuana has become easier to obtain and use. It is a cultural thing. We are in an instant gratification society, and drugs fit it like a glove.
If doctors were prescribing cannabis instead of opioids for the last 50 years I have 100% faith that we would be way better off today. Pills are decimating whole towns and cities right now.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:48 pm
by Headhunter
From the same team who brought you "Alcohol and marijuana are equally dangerous", we now present "Marijuana are opioids and equally dangerous". I so love these 1930s time warps. :lol:

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:52 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/activist-hel ... 44129.html

Fairly young too. No weed smokers were awakened.
I no longer smoke but i still consider him a brave champion of healing. If more people would of started listening to him decades ago we might of diverted this opioid shit storm we now find ourselves in.
I doubt it simply because the opiod crisis has continued heating up as marijuana has become easier to obtain and use. It is a cultural thing. We are in an instant gratification society, and drugs fit it like a glove.
What a lazy analysis this is. Opioid abuse is consistently shown to decrease in areas with access to medical weed. Doesn't fit your agenda though, so just make things up.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:56 pm
by Foo
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/activist-hel ... 44129.html

Fairly young too. No weed smokers were awakened.
I no longer smoke but i still consider him a brave champion of healing. If more people would of started listening to him decades ago we might of diverted this opioid shit storm we now find ourselves in.
I doubt it simply because the opiod crisis has continued heating up as marijuana has become easier to obtain and use. It is a cultural thing. We are in an instant gratification society, and drugs fit it like a glove.
If doctors were prescribing cannabis instead of opioids for the last 50 years I have 100% faith that we would be way better off today. Pills are decimating whole towns and cities right now.
Imagine if more doctors actually started telling people the truth. That the solution to their problems are not found in a pill, a vape, a joint, or a needle in most of the cases where either marijuana or opiods are prescribed. Drugs in general. pills. booze, and weed are all part of the issue. Escape from reality rather than putting in the effort to change it.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:59 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/activist-hel ... 44129.html

Fairly young too. No weed smokers were awakened.
I no longer smoke but i still consider him a brave champion of healing. If more people would of started listening to him decades ago we might of diverted this opioid shit storm we now find ourselves in.
I doubt it simply because the opiod crisis has continued heating up as marijuana has become easier to obtain and use. It is a cultural thing. We are in an instant gratification society, and drugs fit it like a glove.
If doctors were prescribing cannabis instead of opioids for the last 50 years I have 100% faith that we would be way better off today. Pills are decimating whole towns and cities right now.
Imagine if more doctors actually started telling people the truth. That the solution to their problems are not found in a pill, a vape, a joint, or a needle in most of the cases where either marijuana or opiods are prescribed. Drugs in general. pills. booze, and weed are all part of the issue. Escape from reality rather than putting in the effort to change it.
This is a pointless aside devoid of facts and filled to the brim with feelings. Admittedly, it's the only route you could take because you hitched yourself to a losing argument. Go on about the made up linear relationship between weed and pills now...

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:03 pm
by Foo
Image

Decriminalization in the 1970's
Medical Weed legal in 2000's
Recreational Weed legal in 2012.

Look at the chart and tell me that is progress.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:06 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/activist-hel ... 44129.html

Fairly young too. No weed smokers were awakened.
I no longer smoke but i still consider him a brave champion of healing. If more people would of started listening to him decades ago we might of diverted this opioid shit storm we now find ourselves in.
I doubt it simply because the opiod crisis has continued heating up as marijuana has become easier to obtain and use. It is a cultural thing. We are in an instant gratification society, and drugs fit it like a glove.
If doctors were prescribing cannabis instead of opioids for the last 50 years I have 100% faith that we would be way better off today. Pills are decimating whole towns and cities right now.
Imagine if more doctors actually started telling people the truth. That the solution to their problems are not found in a pill, a vape, a joint, or a needle in most of the cases where either marijuana or opiods are prescribed. Drugs in general. pills. booze, and weed are all part of the issue. Escape from reality rather than putting in the effort to change it.
This is a pointless aside devoid of facts and filled to the brim with feelings. Admittedly, it's the only route you could take because you hitched yourself to a losing argument. Go on about the made up linear relationship between weed and pills now...
Of course I will lose the argument. I am not in sync with society and I am in the minority who never takes drugs and rarely drinks. Society has reached a wide spread acceptance of all manner of fucked up shit.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:31 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
Of course I will lose the argument. I am not in sync with society and I am in the minority who never takes drugs and rarely drinks. Society has reached a wide spread acceptance of all manner of fucked up shit.
i don't drink or do drugs either. you can be opposed to the acceptance of drug culture and drug over-use, without going to the opposite extreme.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:49 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Of course I will lose the argument. I am not in sync with society and I am in the minority who never takes drugs and rarely drinks. Society has reached a wide spread acceptance of all manner of fucked up shit.
i don't drink or do drugs either. you can be opposed to the acceptance of drug culture and drug over-use, without going to the opposite extreme.
Since when is avoiding drugs and drinking only at special occasions considered to be "Extreme"? To me that is an indication of how far we have shifted. Normal use is now extreme and abuse is the new normal.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:51 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Of course I will lose the argument. I am not in sync with society and I am in the minority who never takes drugs and rarely drinks. Society has reached a wide spread acceptance of all manner of fucked up shit.
i don't drink or do drugs either. you can be opposed to the acceptance of drug culture and drug over-use, without going to the opposite extreme.
Since when is avoiding drugs and drinking only at special occasions considered to be "Extreme"? To me that is an indication of how far we have shifted. Normal use is now extreme and abuse is the new normal.
no. you misunderstood. again, i don't drink or do drugs either. the extreme is your argument that everything is trash. no one should ever do any of it at all.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:59 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Of course I will lose the argument. I am not in sync with society and I am in the minority who never takes drugs and rarely drinks. Society has reached a wide spread acceptance of all manner of fucked up shit.
i don't drink or do drugs either. you can be opposed to the acceptance of drug culture and drug over-use, without going to the opposite extreme.
Since when is avoiding drugs and drinking only at special occasions considered to be "Extreme"? To me that is an indication of how far we have shifted. Normal use is now extreme and abuse is the new normal.
no. you misunderstood. again, i don't drink or do drugs either. the extreme is your argument that everything is trash. no one should ever do any of it at all.
No one should every take those mood altering drugs. Abilify, Cymbalta, marijuana, etc. all that stuff is trash that replaces good habits with bad ones.

The problem with your argument is everyone thinks they are the special person who needs them, meanwhile massive chunks of the population think that.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:05 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
No one should every take those mood altering drugs. Abilify, Cymbalta, marijuana, etc. all that stuff is trash that replaces good habits with bad ones.

The problem with your argument is everyone thinks they are the special person who needs them, meanwhile massive chunks of the population think that.
what about using whatever substance makes a "special person"?

i do think that mood altering drugs do have their place. it can be helpful to certain people. that doesn't make them special for using that drug. i don't know where that is coming from.

i also agree that there is a severe over-use and over prescribing going on in our society. there needs to be a solution to that. both with the people taking the pills and with the people prescribing and selling the pills.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:11 pm
by showa58taro
Foo wrote:Image

Decriminalization in the 1970's
Medical Weed legal in 2000's
Recreational Weed legal in 2012.

Look at the chart and tell me that is progress.
That is not a big sample size.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:16 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
No one should every take those mood altering drugs. Abilify, Cymbalta, marijuana, etc. all that stuff is trash that replaces good habits with bad ones.

The problem with your argument is everyone thinks they are the special person who needs them, meanwhile massive chunks of the population think that.
what about using whatever substance makes a "special person"?

i do think that mood altering drugs do have their place. it can be helpful to certain people. that doesn't make them special for using that drug. i don't know where that is coming from.

i also agree that there is a severe over-use and over prescribing going on in our society. there needs to be a solution to that. both with the people taking the pills and with the people prescribing and selling the pills.
Every user and abuser thinks they need it. No one needs it.

Re: Father of Medical marijuana dies of lung cancer

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:18 pm
by Foo
showa58taro wrote:
Foo wrote:Image

Decriminalization in the 1970's
Medical Weed legal in 2000's
Recreational Weed legal in 2012.

Look at the chart and tell me that is progress.
That is not a big sample size.
It is not a poll.