November 2, 2024

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Headhunter wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:00 am I have questions about Aliens. It would be in my top 10 if I was sure it should be considered horror but I left it off. Same with Se7en.
count em! i did. :P
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zombie wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:37 amx is a sewer now. :P
What's different?
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Reign in Blood wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:17 am
zombie wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:44 am
Reign in Blood wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:42 am
Tiggnutz wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:58 am I think for our favorites lists you gotta have a complete 25 list to make it work. Anything less will throw the scale off. I need to make a 26-50 because it hurt me to leave some bangers off my top 25
You guys better make a top 50, because half of your top 25s are getting shitcanned! This ain't Sesame Street Spooky Hour.com, the hell you guys doings!
just tell us what doesn't qualify and we'll remove them, and make a proper hmf approved top 25?
I'm kidding, unless we all pretty much want to call foul on one, go with your gut.
Problem is we're all kinda forced to have this conversation. On one hand I want everyone to include movies they think is horror. On the other hand, someone might include a movie they think is horror while another person, who otherwise would have put that movie on their list, left it off because they don't think it is horror. Which affects the point system for our combined list.
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Jason wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:21 pm
zombie wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:37 amx is a sewer now. :P
What's different?
enh. this could political fast. i'm not in the mood.
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As far as I can tell, here are the movies in question:

Silence of the Lambs
Seven
Aliens
Predator
Gremlins
Terminator (1984)
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My thoughts:

If we do nothing, disagreement over whether a specific movie is horror will just slightly pull down the ranking for that movie. Aliens won’t be on my list and that may make the difference in it being top 5 or top 10. For a movie like Seven, maybe top 40 or top 50. That seems kinda fair to me? It’s a more objective way to account for disagreement on something subjective than just throwing them out.

If you think Silence of the Lambs is the best horror movie ever, your opinion should be represented. So should the person who thinks it’s equally great but also not horror.
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Thanks for all the birthday wishes, and happy birthday to you, Head.
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Jason wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:41 pm As far as I can tell, here are the movies in question:

Silence of the Lambs
Seven
Aliens
Predator
Gremlins
Terminator (1984)
They’re all like somewhere between 40-60% horror to me. I wanted to reward the no doubters.
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Jigsaw wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:44 pm Thanks for all the birthday wishes, and happy birthday to you, Head.
Happy birthday buddy!
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zombie wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:06 pm have you seen better call saul? i never had until i started just before the challenge, and picking it up again now. pretty good so far.
You weren't asking me, but I watched the whole series. I generally had a pretty good time with it. Don't want to say more because not sure where you are in the series, and want to avoid spoilers.

It's slower than Breaking Bad, but they're relatively different types of shows, and I think the style works for BCS.
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Headhunter wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:42 pm My thoughts:

If we do nothing, disagreement over whether a specific movie is horror will just slightly pull down the ranking for that movie. Aliens won’t be on my list and that may make the difference in it being top 5 or top 10. For a movie like Seven, maybe top 40 or top 50. That seems kinda fair to me? It’s a more objective way to account for disagreement on something subjective than just throwing them out.

If you think Silence of the Lambs is the best horror movie ever, your opinion should be represented. So should the person who thinks it’s equally great but also not horror.
i like that approach.
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Jigsaw wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:46 pm
zombie wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:06 pm have you seen better call saul? i never had until i started just before the challenge, and picking it up again now. pretty good so far.
You weren't asking me, but I watched the whole series. I generally had a pretty good time with it. Don't want to say more because not sure where you are in the series, and want to avoid spoilers.

It's slower than Breaking Bad, but they're relatively different types of shows, and I think the style works for BCS.
yeah, i just finished season one. breaking bad is a pretty different show in comparison, so far. more tense and moody. maybe better call saul gets there too. but i don't want it to. :P
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Jason wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:41 pm As far as I can tell, here are the movies in question:

Silence of the Lambs
Seven
Aliens
Predator
Gremlins
Terminator (1984)
My opinion:

Silence of the Lambs doesn't have a horror feel to me, and I would have a hard time incorporating it into my top 25 since it feels like there is a glaring difference between what I'm considering. I've just never thought of it as a horror flick.

Seven has never felt like a horror flick to me at all and I would rank it at the bottom of the six movies listed above, both as far as film preference and also as far as "how horror it is". Never understood the inclusion, but either way it wouldn't make my list so you guys can work that out. :P

I watched Aliens for the first time in many years for this challenge and I never questioned whether or not it's horror. It felt like a horror movie to me, but the funny thing is it may be disguising itself as horror to me because the franchise as a whole is horror. It just seems to have the most action and comedy. I'd count it as horror, but it wouldn't make my list either way.

Predator is by definition a textbook horror movie and honestly should count as horror, but it's so bad ass and so heavy on the action that it almost outweighs the horror and makes you feel like you're not watching a horror movie. It is horror, but I left it off my list because I just think of it as a badass Arnold action flick. It would definitely make my list if it's counted as horror.

I've seen Gremlins once or twice many years ago and never questioned its horror authenticity. Is it the kiddy factor that brings it in question? It is rated PG and that does seem a little tame to be considered horror. I am on the fence I guess, but it wouldn't make my list anyway, so once again I'm leaving this one to you guys. :P

Terminator is a horror movie. Kinda no question about it. The weird thing that puts Terminator in question is the fact that the entire rest of the franchise is heavily action oriented. If Terminator were a standalone flick and never had sequels released, it would be much easier for me to think of this as horror. For this reason I generally don't think of it when I think of horror movies. We can also blame Arnold and the guns for this one. Machine guns make you question horror movies. :P
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Headhunter wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:46 pm
Jason wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:41 pm As far as I can tell, here are the movies in question:

Silence of the Lambs
Seven
Aliens
Predator
Gremlins
Terminator (1984)
They’re all like somewhere between 40-60% horror to me. I wanted to reward the no doubters.
Same. And happy birthday to you and Jig.
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It's funny, the two I would call the least horror are Predator and Terminator.
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after 26-50. i still don't feel satisfied. :P i wanted to squeeze possession into the 50 but it just missed the grade.
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I've never considered Terminator Horror. It's all subjective i suppose
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Tiggnutz wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:08 pm I've never considered Terminator Horror. It's all subjective i suppose
bill paxton and lance henriksen alone make it horror by their shared presence. :P
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Possession is among one of my least-favorite first-time watches in October, but hey, if it worked for other people, that's #cool. :P
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Tiggnutz wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 1:08 pm I've never considered Terminator Horror. It's all subjective i suppose
I've heard good reasoning behind why some count it as horror, but like you, that's a mental leap I've never been able to make.
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