Jiggy's Political Corner

[Headhunter]

I saw that poll about ten minutes ago. I'm going to assume it's an outlier, but it could certainly be a blowout in Harris' favor. Makes election night all the more enjoyable to look forward to (not Harris winning, because fuck her, but seeing Trump lose again would be deeply amusing to me).

It might be an outlier but I think it’s another indicator of how overwhelming the support for Harris from women is likely to be. It’s still an abortion election. Why the Harris campaign didn’t just spam that point 90% of the time is beyond me but women didn’t forget.

[Jason]

This area of the board is probably gonna explode in activity in a couple days. I maintain that the elites are probably gonna do everything in their power to rig the election to ensure Trump does not win. Although it will be harder to rig this year with some swing states eliminating fortification, it's still a possibility, and there is a possibility they can do it all on election night. We are even seeing weird things going on in Texas. But I think Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania are lost causes to corruption. But we'll see. I'm of the belief that Trump is not a fraud and will do many of the things he promises in his campaign. I think if Harris wins it is extremely dangerous for the world and especially our wallets.

Just hope nobody is too upset with either result and we can all have happy lives whoever wins. See ya around the boards.

[Headhunter]

Is there any scenario where you could accept a Trump loss as not being “rigged” or is that just kinda the game plan

[Jason]

Is there any scenario where you could accept a Trump loss as not being “rigged” or is that just kinda the game plan

I don't have a "gameplan". Just doing my best to get an honest read of the situation...

The state of Pennsylvania in 2020 was called for Biden by a margin of 80,555 votes. Months after the election, there were 121,240 more votes than registered voters in the state of Pennsylvania, and this is according to the Pennsylvania Department of State. Pennsylvania is legally not allowed to certify an election based on this discrepancy, especially of this magnitude and it was certified anyway.

So basically if they don't blatantly steal it like they did in 2020, then yeah. I will probably never fully trust an election again, though, regardless of outcomes. Hopefully they don't take months to count the vote again this year. Otherwise you can just shut off all news sources and chock it up to a democrat victory.

[Headhunter]

Is there any scenario where you could accept a Trump loss as not being “rigged” or is that just kinda the game plan

I don't have a "gameplan". Just doing my best to get an honest read of the situation...

The state of Pennsylvania in 2020 was called for Biden by a margin of 80,555 votes. Months after the election, there were 121,240 more votes than registered voters in the state of Pennsylvania, and this is according to the Pennsylvania Department of State. Pennsylvania is legally not allowed to certify an election based on this discrepancy, especially of this magnitude and it was certified anyway.

So basically if they don't blatantly steal it like they did in 2020, then yeah. I will probably never fully trust an election again, though, regardless of outcomes. Hopefully they don't take months to count the vote again this year. Otherwise you can just shut off all news sources and chock it up to a democrat victory.

Are you aware that eligible voter turnout and registered voter turnout are entirely different statistics

[Headhunter]

Also the state’s voter registration system has zero role in election certification. All of this stuff was debunked years ago.

[Jason]

This isn't exactly a simple "registered voter turnout" issue and has nothing to do with the system's role in election certification. So I'm not sure what you're reading that has actually been debunked. There are things going on that completely go against state law that are either ignored or certified anyway. We can get deep into it if you want. I don't have the energy to discuss politics like I used to, but I can list just a few examples, and this is probably not even 5% of it.

The state’s DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted, and yet 6,962,607 total ballots were cast (a discrepancy of 202,377 votes). 6,931,060 of these were eventually counted in the presidential race (a discrepancy of 170,830). 882,777 ballots were entered without any independent observation (uninspected), against the law of Pennsylvania - all done in the middle of the night, when Biden was behind by 600,000 votes. In the early morning hours after election night, the votes for Joe Biden increased by 578,014 while Trump’s only increased 3,290 during that same period (a ratio of 99.5% to Biden, 0.5% to Trump). This has also not been explained. The day prior to the election, ballot records indicated that 2.7 million ballots had been sent out. The day after the election, this number mysteriously increased by 400,000. This also has not been explained.

A USPS-contracted trucker testified under oath in a sworn affidavit that he transported between 144,000 to 288,000 completed ballots from New York to Pennsylvania on Oct. 21 and the trailer disappeared. He wasn’t given any notice about his trailer missing from his company. I don't work for USPS, but I am a trucker and this is absolutely not normal. "The next day, it just got weirder. As I arrived at the Lancaster USPS with my tractor, I went to hook up to my trailer and the trailer was gone".

Nothing has been debunked. Just ignored. And this is a very small fraction in just one of the 6-8 states where shenanigans occurred.

[Reign in Blood]

Is there any scenario where you could accept a Trump loss as not being “rigged” or is that just kinda the game plan

Kinda?

[Jason]

Is there any scenario where you could accept a Trump loss as not being “rigged” or is that just kinda the game plan

Kinda?

[Jason]

Anyway. I'm gonna bow out of politics. I know a lot of people totally hate Trump here and if he wins I hope nobody's too upset. I'll be focusing on finishing up my top 25 list.

[Reign in Blood]

Jason, you need to be here to cunt punt Kamala.

[zombie]

Anyway. I'm gonna bow out of politics. I know a lot of people totally hate Trump here and if he wins I hope nobody's too upset. I'll be focusing on finishing up my top 25 list.

kamala wins when evil lurks. a trump victory ensures longlegs for american prosperity!

[Headhunter]

This isn't exactly a simple "registered voter turnout" issue and has nothing to do with the system's role in election certification. So I'm not sure what you're reading that has actually been debunked. There are things going on that completely go against state law that are either ignored or certified anyway. We can get deep into it if you want. I don't have the energy to discuss politics like I used to, but I can list just a few examples, and this is probably not even 5% of it.

The state’s DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted, and yet 6,962,607 total ballots were cast (a discrepancy of 202,377 votes). 6,931,060 of these were eventually counted in the presidential race (a discrepancy of 170,830). 882,777 ballots were entered without any independent observation (uninspected), against the law of Pennsylvania - all done in the middle of the night, when Biden was behind by 600,000 votes. In the early morning hours after election night, the votes for Joe Biden increased by 578,014 while Trump’s only increased 3,290 during that same period (a ratio of 99.5% to Biden, 0.5% to Trump). This has also not been explained. The day prior to the election, ballot records indicated that 2.7 million ballots had been sent out. The day after the election, this number mysteriously increased by 400,000. This also has not been explained.

A USPS-contracted trucker testified under oath in a sworn affidavit that he transported between 144,000 to 288,000 completed ballots from New York to Pennsylvania on Oct. 21 and the trailer disappeared. He wasn’t given any notice about his trailer missing from his company. I don't work for USPS, but I am a trucker and this is absolutely not normal. "The next day, it just got weirder. As I arrived at the Lancaster USPS with my tractor, I went to hook up to my trailer and the trailer was gone".

Nothing has been debunked. Just ignored. And this is a very small fraction in just one of the 6-8 states where shenanigans occurred.

Again, you’re attempting to use a voter registration database to make sense of electoral numbers. That’s not how these things work.

[Jason]

Jason, you need to be here to cunt punt Kamala.

My political war paint has worn thin. I don't have the energy, nor the disdain in my heart to disparage even a likely enemy. If you'd like to cunt punt, I'll pass my memetic sarcasm torch onto you to keep it alive. God speed.

[Jason]

This isn't exactly a simple "registered voter turnout" issue and has nothing to do with the system's role in election certification. So I'm not sure what you're reading that has actually been debunked. There are things going on that completely go against state law that are either ignored or certified anyway. We can get deep into it if you want. I don't have the energy to discuss politics like I used to, but I can list just a few examples, and this is probably not even 5% of it.

The state’s DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted, and yet 6,962,607 total ballots were cast (a discrepancy of 202,377 votes). 6,931,060 of these were eventually counted in the presidential race (a discrepancy of 170,830). 882,777 ballots were entered without any independent observation (uninspected), against the law of Pennsylvania - all done in the middle of the night, when Biden was behind by 600,000 votes. In the early morning hours after election night, the votes for Joe Biden increased by 578,014 while Trump’s only increased 3,290 during that same period (a ratio of 99.5% to Biden, 0.5% to Trump). This has also not been explained. The day prior to the election, ballot records indicated that 2.7 million ballots had been sent out. The day after the election, this number mysteriously increased by 400,000. This also has not been explained.

A USPS-contracted trucker testified under oath in a sworn affidavit that he transported between 144,000 to 288,000 completed ballots from New York to Pennsylvania on Oct. 21 and the trailer disappeared. He wasn’t given any notice about his trailer missing from his company. I don't work for USPS, but I am a trucker and this is absolutely not normal. "The next day, it just got weirder. As I arrived at the Lancaster USPS with my tractor, I went to hook up to my trailer and the trailer was gone".

Nothing has been debunked. Just ignored. And this is a very small fraction in just one of the 6-8 states where shenanigans occurred.

Again, you’re attempting to use a voter registration database to make sense of electoral numbers. That’s not how these things work.

If you're not willing to believe it's possible the election was rigged and have an honest discussion about it, then we can go no further.

[Headhunter]

This isn't exactly a simple "registered voter turnout" issue and has nothing to do with the system's role in election certification. So I'm not sure what you're reading that has actually been debunked. There are things going on that completely go against state law that are either ignored or certified anyway. We can get deep into it if you want. I don't have the energy to discuss politics like I used to, but I can list just a few examples, and this is probably not even 5% of it.

The state’s DoS/SURE system records indicate that only 6,760,230 total voters actually voted, and yet 6,962,607 total ballots were cast (a discrepancy of 202,377 votes). 6,931,060 of these were eventually counted in the presidential race (a discrepancy of 170,830). 882,777 ballots were entered without any independent observation (uninspected), against the law of Pennsylvania - all done in the middle of the night, when Biden was behind by 600,000 votes. In the early morning hours after election night, the votes for Joe Biden increased by 578,014 while Trump’s only increased 3,290 during that same period (a ratio of 99.5% to Biden, 0.5% to Trump). This has also not been explained. The day prior to the election, ballot records indicated that 2.7 million ballots had been sent out. The day after the election, this number mysteriously increased by 400,000. This also has not been explained.

A USPS-contracted trucker testified under oath in a sworn affidavit that he transported between 144,000 to 288,000 completed ballots from New York to Pennsylvania on Oct. 21 and the trailer disappeared. He wasn’t given any notice about his trailer missing from his company. I don't work for USPS, but I am a trucker and this is absolutely not normal. "The next day, it just got weirder. As I arrived at the Lancaster USPS with my tractor, I went to hook up to my trailer and the trailer was gone".

Nothing has been debunked. Just ignored. And this is a very small fraction in just one of the 6-8 states where shenanigans occurred.

Again, you’re attempting to use a voter registration database to make sense of electoral numbers. That’s not how these things work.

If you're not willing to believe it's possible the election was rigged and have an honest discussion about it, then we can go no further.

A lot of things are possible. The point is not that these things *couldn’t* happen. It’s that the information you rely on to make the case doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Everything you’ve mentioned has been addressed. You do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump. That’s fine but I don’t have to go along with it. But yeah, I’m happy to go no further. Pretty much anything is more exciting to talk about than the maintenance of voter registration records. Maybe Jiggy gets off on that idk

[Jason]

You do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump.

How am I supposed to respond to something negative like this? I could very easily say you are rejecting my evidence in a cop out because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I'm tired of politics going that route.

You reframed my evidence of illegal DoS/SURE certification by suggesting it is an electoral numbers issue when the fact that they certified it is illegal based on their own state laws. These are where the questions arise, and are either reframed or ignored

[Headhunter]

You do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump.

How am I supposed to respond to something negative like this? I could very easily say you are rejecting my evidence in a cop out because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I'm tired of politics going that route.

You reframed my evidence of illegal DoS/SURE certification by suggesting it is an electoral numbers issue when the fact that they certified it is illegal based on their own state laws. These are where the questions arise, and are either reframed or ignored

There’s a reason I keep mentioning that the state’s voter registration database (SURE) has nothing to do with election certification. What you are saying is factually incorrect, and this is now the third time I’ve told you why lol

[Jason]

You do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump.

How am I supposed to respond to something negative like this? I could very easily say you are rejecting my evidence in a cop out because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I'm tired of politics going that route.

You reframed my evidence of illegal DoS/SURE certification by suggesting it is an electoral numbers issue when the fact that they certified it is illegal based on their own state laws. These are where the questions arise, and are either reframed or ignored

There’s a reason I keep mentioning that the state’s voter registration database (SURE) has nothing to do with election certification. What you are saying is factually incorrect, and this is now the third time I’ve told you why lol

And this is now the third time where I've stated that based on PA law they are not allowed to legally certify an election based on their recorded discrepancies.

[Headhunter]

You do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump.

How am I supposed to respond to something negative like this? I could very easily say you are rejecting my evidence in a cop out because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I'm tired of politics going that route.

You reframed my evidence of illegal DoS/SURE certification by suggesting it is an electoral numbers issue when the fact that they certified it is illegal based on their own state laws. These are where the questions arise, and are either reframed or ignored

There’s a reason I keep mentioning that the state’s voter registration database (SURE) has nothing to do with election certification. What you are saying is factually incorrect, and this is now the third time I’ve told you why lol

And this is now the third time where I've stated that based on PA law they are not allowed to legally certify an election based on their recorded discrepancies.

No man you just aren’t getting it at all. SURE does not “certify” anything. They exist completely independent of the electoral process. They are not under any obligation under state law to certify anything because that is not something they do.