Foo wrote:Is posing for a camera with your tits out so you can get money and they can sell magazines feminist or not feminist?
some feminists will denounce that. and some (almost certainly less) feminists will defend it. i'm not sure where you wanna go with this.
Just wondering. If a woman is promoted in part because she is a woman, rather than based purely on merit, is that feminism or not feminism?
i don't think there is universal consensus as to whether that would be feminist or not. are you looking for a universal lockstep consensus among all feminists? feminists are people. people have different viewpoints.
So is feminism a real thing if there is no consensus on even the most basic situations that would involve women?
How does feminism differ from simply believing in equality for the vast majority?
feminists would likely, nearly universally, argue that they are about equality. but some feminists are extremist and take it too far, or use it something to hide behind, for purposes of hate and oppression.
yes, feminism is a real thing. if it was manufactured, everyone who identified that way would walk in lockstep. they would be robotic with their viewpoints and their arguments. there would be no casting out. there would be no different ideals and justifications and disputes among feminists because it would be designed to universally perpetuate some kind of agenda. and it's not.
Foo wrote:Is posing for a camera with your tits out so you can get money and they can sell magazines feminist or not feminist?
some feminists will denounce that. and some (almost certainly less) feminists will defend it. i'm not sure where you wanna go with this.
Just wondering. If a woman is promoted in part because she is a woman, rather than based purely on merit, is that feminism or not feminism?
i don't think there is universal consensus as to whether that would be feminist or not. are you looking for a universal lockstep consensus among all feminists? feminists are people. people have different viewpoints.
So is feminism a real thing if there is no consensus on even the most basic situations that would involve women?
How does feminism differ from simply believing in equality for the vast majority?
feminists would likely, nearly universally, argue that they are about equality. but some feminists are extremist and take it too far, or use it something to hide behind, for purposes of hate and oppression.
yes, feminism is a real thing. if it was manufactured, everyone who identified that way would walk in lockstep. they would be robotic with their viewpoints and their arguments. there would be no casting out. there would be no different ideals and justifications and disputes among feminists because it would be designed to universally perpetuate some kind of agenda. and it's not.
You identify as a feminist, right?
Explain how your version is different than seeking equality for all.
Foo wrote:Is posing for a camera with your tits out so you can get money and they can sell magazines feminist or not feminist?
some feminists will denounce that. and some (almost certainly less) feminists will defend it. i'm not sure where you wanna go with this.
Just wondering. If a woman is promoted in part because she is a woman, rather than based purely on merit, is that feminism or not feminism?
i don't think there is universal consensus as to whether that would be feminist or not. are you looking for a universal lockstep consensus among all feminists? feminists are people. people have different viewpoints.
So is feminism a real thing if there is no consensus on even the most basic situations that would involve women?
How does feminism differ from simply believing in equality for the vast majority?
feminists would likely, nearly universally, argue that they are about equality. but some feminists are extremist and take it too far, or use it something to hide behind, for purposes of hate and oppression.
yes, feminism is a real thing. if it was manufactured, everyone who identified that way would walk in lockstep. they would be robotic with their viewpoints and their arguments. there would be no casting out. there would be no different ideals and justifications and disputes among feminists because it would be designed to universally perpetuate some kind of agenda. and it's not.
You identify as a feminist, right?
Explain how your version is different than seeking equality for all.
i do. in my opinion, the outcome should be equality for all.
Foo wrote:Is posing for a camera with your tits out so you can get money and they can sell magazines feminist or not feminist?
some feminists will denounce that. and some (almost certainly less) feminists will defend it. i'm not sure where you wanna go with this.
Just wondering. If a woman is promoted in part because she is a woman, rather than based purely on merit, is that feminism or not feminism?
i don't think there is universal consensus as to whether that would be feminist or not. are you looking for a universal lockstep consensus among all feminists? feminists are people. people have different viewpoints.
So is feminism a real thing if there is no consensus on even the most basic situations that would involve women?
How does feminism differ from simply believing in equality for the vast majority?
feminists would likely, nearly universally, argue that they are about equality. but some feminists are extremist and take it too far, or use it something to hide behind, for purposes of hate and oppression.
yes, feminism is a real thing. if it was manufactured, everyone who identified that way would walk in lockstep. they would be robotic with their viewpoints and their arguments. there would be no casting out. there would be no different ideals and justifications and disputes among feminists because it would be designed to universally perpetuate some kind of agenda. and it's not.
You identify as a feminist, right?
Explain how your version is different than seeking equality for all.
i do. in my opinion, the outcome should be equality for all.
So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
Foo wrote:
So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner.
it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
Foo wrote:
So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner.
it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
Foo wrote:
So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner.
it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
I am a feminist too! ^5
here. i thought you wanted to have a genuine discussion. my mistake.
Foo wrote:
So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner.
it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
I am a feminist too! ^5
here. i thought you wanted to have a genuine discussion. my mistake.
I want women to be treated equal. Is that not feminist?
Foo wrote:
So what makes you a feminist? Would you support a white female getting a job over a black male because she is female, or should it be based on merit?
i think women have it worse, in our culture, than men. and that is not to say that there are no problems facing men too. so don't try to push me into that corner.
it should be based on merit. women should have the opportunity to get that job though.
I am a feminist too! ^5
here. i thought you wanted to have a genuine discussion. my mistake.
I want women to be treated equal. Is that not feminist?
it's feminist. it's also identity politics and i know you don't agree with movements based around that.
