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elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
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zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
Was flicking through news and saw him hovering behind the "big" desk. Did double take. Didn't realize his reach is that far into the cookie jar w/this admin.
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The press conference was about DOGE why would him being there mean anything else other than that?
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i guess i just want to see the coverage from the office focused on the president. not on the guy standing and looming over him.
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zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
While I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
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Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
While I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
are you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?
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zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
While I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
are you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?
As in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.
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Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:02 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
While I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
are you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?
As in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.
so, he intended to implement that, but it was not actually put into use. fair. it has been discussed and intended but never used in practice, based on what i'm seeing.
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zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:06 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:02 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
While I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
are you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?
As in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.
so, he intended to implement that, but it was not actually put into use. fair. it has been discussed and intended but never used in practice, based on what i'm seeing.
I don’t know if it was intended but it was discussed by him back then. I’m trying to remember the name of the book I read this in but anyway. I thought you’d find that interesting.

My guess is that others argued against it because it didn’t work out well for the Romans lol
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That James Madison was no James Monroe, amirite? Pfft.
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Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:10 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:06 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:02 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
While I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
are you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?
As in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.
so, he intended to implement that, but it was not actually put into use. fair. it has been discussed and intended but never used in practice, based on what i'm seeing.
I don’t know if it was intended but it was discussed by him back then. I’m trying to remember the name of the book I read this in but anyway. I thought you’d find that interesting.

My guess is that others argued against it because it didn’t work out well for the Romans lol
i do find it interesting to discuss. kind of a what may have been or could have been kind of thing. political history could be nice to discuss and explore here, definitely.
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zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:13 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:10 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:06 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:02 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:48 am
Lazerus wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:44 am
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
While I disagree with your statement about Elon. The idea of the U.S. having co-presidents isn't new, in fact it was brought up by founding father (and later 4th president) James Madison when the Constitution was being written as it had worked better than a single head for the Roman Republic (which had two consuls as it's heads of state) and Madison was the Constitutional Convention's scholar on all of the forms of government. (republic, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, empire, etc.) It's well known that The Roman Republic was a substantial model for the American Constitution with it's Co-Consuls, Senate, Governors of "states/provinces", Army structure, taxation policies, professional bureaucracy that answered to the central government, civilian control of the military, annual budgets, etc. The United States government borrowed from all of these ideas since the beginning.
are you talking co-consuls, as in president and vice president? if not, can you provide an example of what you mean specifically?
As in co-president and co-president. I believe Madison was using the co-cosul positions the Roman Republic used prior to it being reorganized into the Empire as an example. But obviously others disagreed with him and we ended up with a President and Vice President offices.
so, he intended to implement that, but it was not actually put into use. fair. it has been discussed and intended but never used in practice, based on what i'm seeing.
I don’t know if it was intended but it was discussed by him back then. I’m trying to remember the name of the book I read this in but anyway. I thought you’d find that interesting.

My guess is that others argued against it because it didn’t work out well for the Romans lol
i do find it interesting to discuss. kind of a what may have been or could have been kind of thing. political history could be nice to discuss and explore here, definitely.
How dope would it have been to have Trump and Vince McMahon running the country during his first term? Ya know before the whole dropping a deuce on a poor girl's head stuff. So dope!
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Reign in Blood wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:16 am
How dope would it have been to have Trump and Vince McMahon running the country during his first term? Ya know before the whole dropping a deuce on a poor girl's head stuff. So dope!
i would say that vince mcmahon doesn't have any experience to be president. but that doesn't seem to be a concern anymore. :P i guess it could be interesting to think about that. but it doesn't seem so good, from my perspective.
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zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
He's only auditing government agencies. Trump is directing him where to audit and doing all the executive orders. Trump has done more in his first three weeks than any president in my lifetime by an absolute mile and the left is trying to create a narrative that Elon is the president. It's weird.
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Jason wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:56 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:55 am elon musk really is the co-president. it's becoming more and more clear.
He's only auditing government agencies. Trump is directing him where to audit and doing all the executive orders. Trump has done more in his first three weeks than any president in my lifetime by an absolute mile and the left is trying to create a narrative that Elon is the president. It's weird.
he has been busy. they both have.
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Strong words from Elon Musk :P

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elon musk is not a great speaker. trump can be the mouthpiece. :P
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zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:01 pm elon musk is not a great speaker. trump can be the mouthpiece. :P
He's not the greatest either. :P
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Jason wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:27 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:01 pm elon musk is not a great speaker. trump can be the mouthpiece. :P
He's not the greatest either. :P
what he lacks in tact and verbosity, he makes up for in charisma and fearlessness.
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Damn verbosity is a great word
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