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zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?
The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?
The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?
i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)
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zombie wrote:no, it's not. it's a gesture. clearly some part of our leadership wants to keep illegals coming in. the wall is not gonna stop corruption.
What about ending lifetime jobs for government workers? Trump really brought that idea into fruition. Do libs disagree?
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?
The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?
i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)
This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.
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Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Leftism? Your grasp of political concepts is a joke.
Shut it, Swede. We know leftism is different nationally. And your lefts might be crazier.
But even in your country this has Fuck all to do with the left or socialism, liberalism, or any other ism.
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This wall will ha e to be awesome to cover ports and hunt down those overstaying a visa.
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showa58taro wrote:
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Leftism? Your grasp of political concepts is a joke.
Shut it, Swede. We know leftism is different nationally. And your lefts might be crazier.
But even in your country this has Fuck all to do with the left or socialism, liberalism, or any other ism.
You obviously don't visit America much. This is a total leftist thing.
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Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:Leftism? Your grasp of political concepts is a joke.
Shut it, Swede. We know leftism is different nationally. And your lefts might be crazier.
But even in your country this has Fuck all to do with the left or socialism, liberalism, or any other ism.
You obviously don't visit America much. This is a total leftist thing.
Not ideologically. It seems like you’re ascribing two completely untelated traits based on the people you have identified.
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Anything the left does that you find shameful doesn't mean it isn't a leftist thing. This is a leftist thing.
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?
The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?
i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)
This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.
first, your boy was all about "drain the swamp", seems in line with his campaign talk. second, are they not criminals? i thought you were against criminality at any level. or is it just immigrant criminality?
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?
The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?
i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)
This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.
first, your boy was all about "drain the swamp", seems in line with his campaign talk. second, are they not criminals? i thought you were against criminality at any level. or is it just immigrant criminality?
The swamp is Washington. I think locking people up for political dissent is requires a whole different level of caution. The same reason why Hillary is not in jail. The same reason allegations agianst Trump and Bernie Sanders require such thoughtfulness by responsible people.
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?
The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?
i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)
This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.
first, your boy was all about "drain the swamp", seems in line with his campaign talk. second, are they not criminals? i thought you were against criminality at any level. or is it just immigrant criminality?
The swamp is Washington. I think locking people up for political dissent is requires a whole different level of caution. The same reason why Hillary is not in jail. The same reason allegations agianst Trump and Bernie Sanders require such thoughtfulness by responsible people.
accusation is not the same as knowing and having proof that they are criminals. i didn't say political dissent, though trump would seemingly like to do just that.
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:more incentivization and circumvention. but by all means, let's build a wall rather than actually working to solve the problem.
Fences and walls work the world over. Perhaps you should be blaming the illegals and not those trying to enforce our laws and protect us.
are illegals looking the other way to favor illegals? no. i'm blaming corruption and incentivization. that's the problem.

we're paying to have our house robbed, essentially. so trump boards up the door, but we'll still keep paying the people to rob us. maybe open a window for them too. good system.
Let's get the truth on the table. Do you want every single illegal immigrant deported out of this country immediately?
i wouldn't mind but it will take time. and it takes cooperation across the board. we're not there. if someone is shooting holes in your boat, do you just ignore him and keep bailing the water and trying to patch the holes as they happen?
The wall fixes the holes in the boat. Would you advocate arresting both government officials and businesses harboring illegals and charging them with aiding and abetting criminals?
i am advocating that. as long as you can prove that they knowingly aided and abetted. (like whatever 7-11 thing before, and this washington state thing)
This would mean locking up a ton of california politicians.
first, your boy was all about "drain the swamp", seems in line with his campaign talk. second, are they not criminals? i thought you were against criminality at any level. or is it just immigrant criminality?
The swamp is Washington. I think locking people up for political dissent is requires a whole different level of caution. The same reason why Hillary is not in jail. The same reason allegations agianst Trump and Bernie Sanders require such thoughtfulness by responsible people.
accusation is not the same as knowing and having proof that they are criminals. i didn't say political dissent, though trump would seemingly like to do just that.
Trump has been in office for a year. No political enemies have been locked up. No evidence he has made any attempt to do so despite being the most powerful man in the world with all the tools at his disposal to do so.
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Foo wrote: Trump has been in office for a year. No political enemies have been locked up. No evidence he has made any attempt to do so despite being the most powerful man in the world with all the tools at his disposal to do so.
then it's all talk. fair enough.
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: Trump has been in office for a year. No political enemies have been locked up. No evidence he has made any attempt to do so despite being the most powerful man in the world with all the tools at his disposal to do so.
then it's all talk. fair enough.
It is not abusing power.
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote: Trump has been in office for a year. No political enemies have been locked up. No evidence he has made any attempt to do so despite being the most powerful man in the world with all the tools at his disposal to do so.
then it's all talk. fair enough.
It is not abusing power.
never said it was. again, fair enough.
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