September 7th 2018

[Jigsaw]

I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

But you do need a medical definition of addiction before you can diagnosis addiction, which you've yet to demonstrate.

I just don't get how I could not smoke weed for two whole years without suffering from withdrawal. You would think that, as with many additions, withdrawal would be present among stopping cold turkey.

But nothing.

Just confused, I guess, because this isn't making much sense. I think you're using "addiction" in a much different way I would.

[Jigsaw]

Foo says he cuts through the bullshit when half the time, the stuff he says is the bullshit. Love this guy!

[Foo]

Sniffing gasoline makes me happy! Obviously if it makes me happy, it is good!

no. you should be miserable with no way to ease it at all. just suffer through it cause it makes me feel more comfortable with you. i'll offer condemnation and judgment if you can't just suffer through it.

Have you tried being productive to ease the misery? Can't do the same things and expect different results.

yes. i've tried being productive. if trying to be productive doesn't work, do i keep trying it expecting different results?

Do you think your efforts at productivity would be similar to my idea of productivity? Again, find purpose. Become a part of something bigger that leads you to a better future. Escapism is only temporary.

no. probably not. but we're different people. i don't think i could ever make a business work the way you do. not everyone is going to be able to make that work, and more people are not going to ever be in a position to see if that could work.

how many other people does it take for you to be able to run your food truck? from actual co-workers to people delivering your goods for making the food. etc?

Thousands of people? Someone has to harvest the grain to make the flour to bake the bread if you are going that far back. Someone has to pave the road for the truck to drive on, etc. I am not quite sure what you are getting at.

Do I have help? Yes, I do. But that help also comes with obligations. Right now, my payroll runs about $13,000 a month. It was six years ago when I was practicing making cupcakes and drinks and posting pictures here, before there was a food truck or a retaurant, or the other things. It had to be built.

Keep in mind, I am half retarded, and 100% hillbilly, so I have to work hard. You are probably smarter than I am and every bit as capable, but I am determined to win like no other. So yes, you could.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

Ah, the liar one.

I never understood complaining about hours only to "call in sick". When my hours are short, it's due to a lack of work in the shop (I'm getting pretty tired of our sales-guy taking vacations lately though). Even though it's not paying off yet, those "short days" do get occupied by me doing something productive.

[Foo]

I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

But you do need a medical definition of addiction before you can diagnosis addiction, which you've yet to demonstrate.

I just don't get how I could not smoke weed for two whole years without suffering from withdrawal. You would think that, as with many additions, withdrawal would be present among stopping cold turkey.

But nothing.

Just confused, I guess, because this isn't making much sense. I think you're using "addiction" in a much different way I would.

I have a food addiction. I can eat great for long stretches of time. I feel amazing when doing so and my life is so much better. I don't miss the bad stuff. Yet, I will also go stretches where the food becomes my master.

The addiction never went away, and I am sure it does not fit a medical diagnosis, but it is no less of an addiction.

[zombie]

"Meaning steps"?

Who's to determine that? Right now I have little choice but to work because if I don't work, my family won't be able to get by because of this shitty system that you adore.

What replaces satisfaction is how difficult it is to actually get stuff done, not weed, which is a pleasant distraction from this shitty country.

My girlfriend has spent the last two days consoling her friend who was denied a student visa to come here. You don't know what a shitty country is.

Spend some time in Venezuela, if the people don't murder you to steal your shoes or find out what is in your wallet, you will emerge with a different perspective of "shitty". Maybe they murder you because you walked down the wrong road and think you witnessed them disposing of another body.

My future mother in law has to decide if she wants bars OVER her small yard that already has an electric fence.

if you knew someone in venezuela who was smoking weed to take their mind off of their shitty situation, would you tell them to just buck up and be productive instead, or would you take a step back and see whether it actually helped them or not?

If I cared about them, I would. I care about you guys. It hurts me to see you miserable. The easiest thing in the world would be to sit back and say it will all be ok if you stay on the same path.

When I am working with someone, we talk like this. When I am firing them, I tell them they should just keep on doing all the same stuff and everything will be great.

Have one right now. 35 years old, single mom, two baby daddies, custody of one kid, lives with parents and still smokes and parties despite telling everyone she sees she is the mother of the year. Will probably let her go within two weeks.

Because of you not approving her personal life or because she's a bad employee?

She is not trustworthy. She is the one I caught in a lie. So then, I felt like I could still work with her as long as she was supervised, but she kept throwing her lack of hours in my face and the fact that she is a single mom and has bills.

So, the single mom with bills has worked with us for two months, and has voluntarily taken off 9 days that would be about $1,200 in income, plus lost two more because of the lie. She complained one day because we did a catering job instead of a regular day. She lost $24 in pay, but each of the staff got $75 in tips. She says to me, "You know, if not for that big tip, I would not be able to pay my bills."

sounds like she's a bad employee. giving up weed would probably not make her a better employee, supposing that she does use it.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

Just gesso'd over one of my illustrations to reuse the board for the Halloween art contest. Didn't care for the results of the one I gesso'd over, and it's not a particularly large board, but it's what I have available. Even if I could afford to buy a new one at the size I'd prefer, I'd have to wait damn near two weeks for it to show up because the art store I prefer takes its sweet time for shipping, which'll leave me stuck to get one done in 5 days.

[Jigsaw]

I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

But you do need a medical definition of addiction before you can diagnosis addiction, which you've yet to demonstrate.

I just don't get how I could not smoke weed for two whole years without suffering from withdrawal. You would think that, as with many additions, withdrawal would be present among stopping cold turkey.

But nothing.

Just confused, I guess, because this isn't making much sense. I think you're using "addiction" in a much different way I would.

I have a food addiction. I can eat great for long stretches of time. I feel amazing when doing so and my life is so much better. I don't miss the bad stuff. Yet, I will also go stretches where the food becomes my master.

The addiction never went away, and I am sure it does not fit a medical diagnosis, but it is no less of an addiction.

So you defined and self-diagnosed a food addiction for yourself. And then worked to rid yourself as best as possible of it. That's a positive thing.

However, I fail to see how partaking in weed once, maybe twice a week, is an addiction, especially with zero withdrawal issues and no insane bodily tics when I'm stone-cold sober.

I'd say I'm more addicted to horror movies than weed (because I don't think I'm 'addicted' to weed at all), but am I going to stop watching horror movies?

No.

[Foo]

Ah, the liar one.

I never understood complaining about hours only to "call in sick". When my hours are short, it's due to a lack of work in the shop (I'm getting pretty tired of our sales-guy taking vacations lately though). Even though it's not paying off yet, those "short days" do get occupied by me doing something productive.

I don't even care about the days off. Just don't throw your kids and your situation in everyone's face all the time. I didn't create that issue, and then when given the opportunity to work your way out of a hole, take a bunch of days off to go to the beach. She has to do a lot of extra stuff because she was a drug addict when the custody situation happened, and she loves to point out how the system is keeping her down. Like, "It is so ridiculous I have to pay child support, 1/2 of the insurance, etc.".

[Foo]

I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

But you do need a medical definition of addiction before you can diagnosis addiction, which you've yet to demonstrate.

I just don't get how I could not smoke weed for two whole years without suffering from withdrawal. You would think that, as with many additions, withdrawal would be present among stopping cold turkey.

But nothing.

Just confused, I guess, because this isn't making much sense. I think you're using "addiction" in a much different way I would.

I have a food addiction. I can eat great for long stretches of time. I feel amazing when doing so and my life is so much better. I don't miss the bad stuff. Yet, I will also go stretches where the food becomes my master.

The addiction never went away, and I am sure it does not fit a medical diagnosis, but it is no less of an addiction.

So you defined and self-diagnosed a food addiction for yourself. And then worked to rid yourself as best as possible of it. That's a positive thing.

However, I fail to see how partaking in weed once, maybe twice a week, is an addiction, especially with zero withdrawal issues and no insane bodily tics when I'm stone-cold sober.

I'd say I'm more addicted to horror movies than weed (because I don't think I'm 'addicted' to weed at all), but am I going to stop watching horror movies?

No.

You say you are not happy with your life. When your solution is weed instead of making meaningful change to make it better, that is addiction.

[Foo]

Just gesso'd over one of my illustrations to reuse the board for the Halloween art contest. Didn't care for the results of the one I gesso'd over, and it's not a particularly large board, but it's what I have available. Even if I could afford to buy a new one at the size I'd prefer, I'd have to wait damn near two weeks for it to show up because the art store I prefer takes its sweet time for shipping, which'll leave me stuck to get one done in 5 days.

gesso'd?

[DancesWithWerewolves]

Just gesso'd over one of my illustrations to reuse the board for the Halloween art contest. Didn't care for the results of the one I gesso'd over, and it's not a particularly large board, but it's what I have available. Even if I could afford to buy a new one at the size I'd prefer, I'd have to wait damn near two weeks for it to show up because the art store I prefer takes its sweet time for shipping, which'll leave me stuck to get one done in 5 days.

gesso'd?

Gesso is like paint primer. That's the easiest way I think I can explain it.

[zombie]

Thousands of people? Someone has to harvest the grain to make the flour to bake the bread if you are going that far back. Someone has to pave the road for the truck to drive on, etc. I am not quite sure what you are getting at.

Do I have help? Yes, I do. But that help also comes with obligations. Right now, my payroll runs about $13,000 a month. It was six years ago when I was practicing making cupcakes and drinks and posting pictures here, before there was a food truck or a retaurant, or the other things. It had to be built.

Keep in mind, I am half retarded, and 100% hillbilly, so I have to work hard. You are probably smarter than I am and every bit as capable, but I am determined to win like no other. So yes, you could.

my point was that not everyone has what it takes to be a boss. and even more people are not going to be able to be a boss, even if they had what it takes.

if everyone who worked on the dark knight decided to try to direct instead. there would be no dark knight. if everyone who helps metallica be metallica decided to become musicians instead, it would fall apart. cause you need people to support you. those people are not going to be bosses themselves. it won't work. it's good to strive for that, but the majority of people either are not able to make it work, or won't have the opportunity to make it work.

[Jigsaw]

I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

But you do need a medical definition of addiction before you can diagnosis addiction, which you've yet to demonstrate.

I just don't get how I could not smoke weed for two whole years without suffering from withdrawal. You would think that, as with many additions, withdrawal would be present among stopping cold turkey.

But nothing.

Just confused, I guess, because this isn't making much sense. I think you're using "addiction" in a much different way I would.

I have a food addiction. I can eat great for long stretches of time. I feel amazing when doing so and my life is so much better. I don't miss the bad stuff. Yet, I will also go stretches where the food becomes my master.

The addiction never went away, and I am sure it does not fit a medical diagnosis, but it is no less of an addiction.

So you defined and self-diagnosed a food addiction for yourself. And then worked to rid yourself as best as possible of it. That's a positive thing.

However, I fail to see how partaking in weed once, maybe twice a week, is an addiction, especially with zero withdrawal issues and no insane bodily tics when I'm stone-cold sober.

I'd say I'm more addicted to horror movies than weed (because I don't think I'm 'addicted' to weed at all), but am I going to stop watching horror movies?

No.

You say you are not happy with your life. When your solution is weed instead of making meaningful change to make it better, that is addiction.

I don't recall saying weed is the solution. It's just something that I do for fun, not the end-all be-all.

And if weed makes my day-to-day life a little more enjoyable, that directly positively impacts my life. Maybe with even more weed, I can be more happy, and more willing to do new things. Good thing you can't overdose, or I might end up dying from the massive amounts of bud I smoke.

Yeah, it probably goes without saying, this isn't a conversation I'm remotely taking seriously, as much as you might wish I would. I'm not even high right now, and this just seems silly.

[Jigsaw]

Thousands of people? Someone has to harvest the grain to make the flour to bake the bread if you are going that far back. Someone has to pave the road for the truck to drive on, etc. I am not quite sure what you are getting at.

Do I have help? Yes, I do. But that help also comes with obligations. Right now, my payroll runs about $13,000 a month. It was six years ago when I was practicing making cupcakes and drinks and posting pictures here, before there was a food truck or a retaurant, or the other things. It had to be built.

Keep in mind, I am half retarded, and 100% hillbilly, so I have to work hard. You are probably smarter than I am and every bit as capable, but I am determined to win like no other. So yes, you could.

my point was that not everyone has what it takes to be a boss. and even more people are not going to be able to be a boss, even if they had what it takes.

if everyone who worked on the dark knight decided to try to direct instead. there would be no dark knight. if everyone who helps metallica be metallica decided to become musicians instead, it would fall apart. cause you need people to support you. those people are not going to be bosses themselves. it won't work. it's good to strive for that, but the majority of people either are not able to make it work, or won't have the opportunity to make it work.

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[Jigsaw]

It's a damn good thing I'm addicted to weed, or otherwise we never would have made five to six pages today.

[Jigsaw]

Hey, just noticed I have over 1,000 posts here.

I know that it doesn't mean much, but it's sort of a nice feeling.

[Foo]

I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

But you do need a medical definition of addiction before you can diagnosis addiction, which you've yet to demonstrate.

I just don't get how I could not smoke weed for two whole years without suffering from withdrawal. You would think that, as with many additions, withdrawal would be present among stopping cold turkey.

But nothing.

Just confused, I guess, because this isn't making much sense. I think you're using "addiction" in a much different way I would.

I have a food addiction. I can eat great for long stretches of time. I feel amazing when doing so and my life is so much better. I don't miss the bad stuff. Yet, I will also go stretches where the food becomes my master.

The addiction never went away, and I am sure it does not fit a medical diagnosis, but it is no less of an addiction.

So you defined and self-diagnosed a food addiction for yourself. And then worked to rid yourself as best as possible of it. That's a positive thing.

However, I fail to see how partaking in weed once, maybe twice a week, is an addiction, especially with zero withdrawal issues and no insane bodily tics when I'm stone-cold sober.

I'd say I'm more addicted to horror movies than weed (because I don't think I'm 'addicted' to weed at all), but am I going to stop watching horror movies?

No.

You say you are not happy with your life. When your solution is weed instead of making meaningful change to make it better, that is addiction.

I don't recall saying weed is the solution. It's just something that I do for fun, not the end-all be-all.

And if weed makes my day-to-day life a little more enjoyable, that directly positively impacts my life. Maybe with even more weed, I can be more happy, and more willing to do new things. Good thing you can't overdose, or I might end up dying from the massive amounts of bud I smoke.

Yeah, it probably goes without saying, this isn't a conversation I'm remotely taking seriously, as much as you might wish I would. I'm not even high right now, and this just seems silly.

I don't expect you to take it seriously. I am just hoping to plant a tiny seed. Maybe the seed dies, or maybe it grows and grows...

I have enough hope for us both!

[Jigsaw]

I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

But you do need a medical definition of addiction before you can diagnosis addiction, which you've yet to demonstrate.

I just don't get how I could not smoke weed for two whole years without suffering from withdrawal. You would think that, as with many additions, withdrawal would be present among stopping cold turkey.

But nothing.

Just confused, I guess, because this isn't making much sense. I think you're using "addiction" in a much different way I would.

I have a food addiction. I can eat great for long stretches of time. I feel amazing when doing so and my life is so much better. I don't miss the bad stuff. Yet, I will also go stretches where the food becomes my master.

The addiction never went away, and I am sure it does not fit a medical diagnosis, but it is no less of an addiction.

So you defined and self-diagnosed a food addiction for yourself. And then worked to rid yourself as best as possible of it. That's a positive thing.

However, I fail to see how partaking in weed once, maybe twice a week, is an addiction, especially with zero withdrawal issues and no insane bodily tics when I'm stone-cold sober.

I'd say I'm more addicted to horror movies than weed (because I don't think I'm 'addicted' to weed at all), but am I going to stop watching horror movies?

No.

You say you are not happy with your life. When your solution is weed instead of making meaningful change to make it better, that is addiction.

I don't recall saying weed is the solution. It's just something that I do for fun, not the end-all be-all.

And if weed makes my day-to-day life a little more enjoyable, that directly positively impacts my life. Maybe with even more weed, I can be more happy, and more willing to do new things. Good thing you can't overdose, or I might end up dying from the massive amounts of bud I smoke.

Yeah, it probably goes without saying, this isn't a conversation I'm remotely taking seriously, as much as you might wish I would. I'm not even high right now, and this just seems silly.

I don't expect you to take it seriously. I am just hoping to plant a tiny seed. Maybe the seed dies, or maybe it grows and grows...

I have enough hope for us both!

I want something to grow and grow...

[DancesWithWerewolves]

I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

But you do need a medical definition of addiction before you can diagnosis addiction, which you've yet to demonstrate.

I just don't get how I could not smoke weed for two whole years without suffering from withdrawal. You would think that, as with many additions, withdrawal would be present among stopping cold turkey.

But nothing.

Just confused, I guess, because this isn't making much sense. I think you're using "addiction" in a much different way I would.

I have a food addiction. I can eat great for long stretches of time. I feel amazing when doing so and my life is so much better. I don't miss the bad stuff. Yet, I will also go stretches where the food becomes my master.

The addiction never went away, and I am sure it does not fit a medical diagnosis, but it is no less of an addiction.

So you defined and self-diagnosed a food addiction for yourself. And then worked to rid yourself as best as possible of it. That's a positive thing.

However, I fail to see how partaking in weed once, maybe twice a week, is an addiction, especially with zero withdrawal issues and no insane bodily tics when I'm stone-cold sober.

I'd say I'm more addicted to horror movies than weed (because I don't think I'm 'addicted' to weed at all), but am I going to stop watching horror movies?

No.

You say you are not happy with your life. When your solution is weed instead of making meaningful change to make it better, that is addiction.

I don't recall saying weed is the solution. It's just something that I do for fun, not the end-all be-all.

And if weed makes my day-to-day life a little more enjoyable, that directly positively impacts my life. Maybe with even more weed, I can be more happy, and more willing to do new things. Good thing you can't overdose, or I might end up dying from the massive amounts of bud I smoke.

Yeah, it probably goes without saying, this isn't a conversation I'm remotely taking seriously, as much as you might wish I would. I'm not even high right now, and this just seems silly.

I don't expect you to take it seriously. I am just hoping to plant a tiny seed. Maybe the seed dies, or maybe it grows and grows...

I have enough hope for us both!

I want something to grow and grow...

Woah this convo just took a turn...