Foo wrote:Also, the Oscars have totally ruined their brand with bias anyway. Now that folks understand that certain films and individuals are excluded from nominations based on factors outside of the work itself, the whole thing feels pretty hollow.
folks hold their opinions in such high regard that awards shows better reflect that or else they're just bias and irrelevant garbage.
I never minded artsy fartsy stuff winning that I would never watch. I felt the process still had credibility. I can appreciate things I do not like.
Holding a phony awards competition has little value. It is not "Best Picture" any more. It is "Best Picture that meets several criteria that we do not disclose from a limited field".
if they pander or sacrifice their values for an agenda, or for viewership, then that's phony. i can agree to that. which artsy fartsy films that you'll never watch should be up for best picture?
Something like Anomalisa from a couple years ago. Both daring in terms of concept and well received, but of no interest to me.
At one point, you had to go half retard to get a best actor nomination, now the ticket is gays and black liberation. Kinda paint by numbers.
Foo wrote:Also, the Oscars have totally ruined their brand with bias anyway. Now that folks understand that certain films and individuals are excluded from nominations based on factors outside of the work itself, the whole thing feels pretty hollow.
folks hold their opinions in such high regard that awards shows better reflect that or else they're just bias and irrelevant garbage.
I never minded artsy fartsy stuff winning that I would never watch. I felt the process still had credibility. I can appreciate things I do not like.
Holding a phony awards competition has little value. It is not "Best Picture" any more. It is "Best Picture that meets several criteria that we do not disclose from a limited field".
if they pander or sacrifice their values for an agenda, or for viewership, then that's phony. i can agree to that. which artsy fartsy films that you'll never watch should be up for best picture?
Something like Anomalisa from a couple years ago. Both daring in terms of concept and well received, but of no interest to me.
At one point, you had to go half retard to get a best actor nomination, now the ticket is gays and black liberation. Kinda paint by numbers.
anomalisa was nominated for best animated, that year, so well done for the oscars, then.
i get the criticism and stereotypes around the oscars. that's been for a long time, like as long as i've been paying any attention at all.
Foo wrote:Also, the Oscars have totally ruined their brand with bias anyway. Now that folks understand that certain films and individuals are excluded from nominations based on factors outside of the work itself, the whole thing feels pretty hollow.
folks hold their opinions in such high regard that awards shows better reflect that or else they're just bias and irrelevant garbage.
I never minded artsy fartsy stuff winning that I would never watch. I felt the process still had credibility. I can appreciate things I do not like.
Holding a phony awards competition has little value. It is not "Best Picture" any more. It is "Best Picture that meets several criteria that we do not disclose from a limited field".
Best animated is like kissing your sister.
if they pander or sacrifice their values for an agenda, or for viewership, then that's phony. i can agree to that. which artsy fartsy films that you'll never watch should be up for best picture?
Something like Anomalisa from a couple years ago. Both daring in terms of concept and well received, but of no interest to me.
At one point, you had to go half retard to get a best actor nomination, now the ticket is gays and black liberation. Kinda paint by numbers.
anomalisa was nominated for best animated, that year, so well done for the oscars, then.
i get the criticism and stereotypes around the oscars. that's been for a long time, like as long as i've been paying any attention at all.
Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.
/thread
Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.
Nah man. Have you ever said something offensive? And if so, should it ruin your career? Think about it.
You can and should be held to account for your words, yes. That’s a thing. I’m certain I said something offensive repeatedly and I’d like to think I don’t say those things now, and that counts for something. But if it doesn’t count for anything and the employer or prospective employer draws that consclusion then you’ve witnessed freedom of expression in action. Your constitutional amendment relates solely to the law and the actions of the government. Not a private company or citizen. Kevin Hart would rock the Oscars, but it’s not his right to do so. They’re setting a standard and then sticking to it. Seems fair.
Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.
/thread
Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.
Nah man. Have you ever said something offensive? And if so, should it ruin your career? Think about it.
You can and should be held to account for your words, yes. That’s a thing. I’m certain I said something offensive repeatedly and I’d like to think I don’t say those things now, and that counts for something. But if it doesn’t count for anything and the employer or prospective employer draws that consclusion then you’ve witnessed freedom of expression in action. Your constitutional amendment relates solely to the law and the actions of the government. Not a private company or citizen. Kevin Hart would rock the Oscars, but it’s not his right to do so. They’re setting a standard and then sticking to it. Seems fair.
I get what you're saying. However, what do ya do if you are Kevin Hart? He did apologize. I saw a video of him, in bed, and he gave a good explanation. What more do we want from him? I guess I can forgive a man for being wrong. He seemed sincere.
Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.
/thread
Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.
Nah man. Have you ever said something offensive? And if so, should it ruin your career? Think about it.
You can and should be held to account for your words, yes. That’s a thing. I’m certain I said something offensive repeatedly and I’d like to think I don’t say those things now, and that counts for something. But if it doesn’t count for anything and the employer or prospective employer draws that consclusion then you’ve witnessed freedom of expression in action. Your constitutional amendment relates solely to the law and the actions of the government. Not a private company or citizen. Kevin Hart would rock the Oscars, but it’s not his right to do so. They’re setting a standard and then sticking to it. Seems fair.
I get what you're saying. However, what do ya do if you are Kevin Hart? He did apologize. I saw a video of him, in bed, and he gave a good explanation. What more do we want from him? I guess I can forgive a man for being wrong. He seemed sincere.
He has apologized but he did when it came out say he already had, not that he would again and some saw that as not really tackling the issue. Likewise it was a bit Kevin Spacey in that it was all about him and how he felt and had changed, not about the community he offended. For me that was plenty and I’d be cool with him hosting but others felt he didn’t do enough to acknowledge the hurt of it all. And that’s their right. I don’t get to dictate what offends you, and vice versa. In this case it seems the LGBTQ community were not moved by his apology. That’s their call. I’d rather have people stick to principles here than cave to public demand because that is how we advance socially
Foo wrote: EVERYONE needs to rally around freedom of thought and expression.
/thread
Except if they are liberal expression (of outrage) apparently.
Nah man. Have you ever said something offensive? And if so, should it ruin your career? Think about it.
You can and should be held to account for your words, yes. That’s a thing. I’m certain I said something offensive repeatedly and I’d like to think I don’t say those things now, and that counts for something. But if it doesn’t count for anything and the employer or prospective employer draws that consclusion then you’ve witnessed freedom of expression in action. Your constitutional amendment relates solely to the law and the actions of the government. Not a private company or citizen. Kevin Hart would rock the Oscars, but it’s not his right to do so. They’re setting a standard and then sticking to it. Seems fair.
I get what you're saying. However, what do ya do if you are Kevin Hart? He did apologize. I saw a video of him, in bed, and he gave a good explanation. What more do we want from him? I guess I can forgive a man for being wrong. He seemed sincere.
Absolutely nothing was wrong about his own opinions. We are allowed to have opinions that differ.
