It's like you were a History major or some shit.Jason wrote:I am clearly just more seasoned in history. Don't feel bad, yo.Headhunter wrote:So, yeah, you have nothing. Wasting time as usual.Jason wrote:There is no "my argument". If I told you "water is wet", you would still argue it.Headhunter wrote:Save me the trouble and make your own argument then.Jason wrote:It's actually a three hour long mini-series and cliff notes wouldn't do it justice.
Socialists must own the disasters of socialism and should never forget it.
Jussie Smollett Lies About MAGA Whiteys
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Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
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Would have been good for him.Reign in Blood wrote:It's like you were a History major or some shit.Jason wrote:I am clearly just more seasoned in history. Don't feel bad, yo.Headhunter wrote:So, yeah, you have nothing. Wasting time as usual.Jason wrote:There is no "my argument". If I told you "water is wet", you would still argue it.Headhunter wrote:Save me the trouble and make your own argument then.Jason wrote:It's actually a three hour long mini-series and cliff notes wouldn't do it justice.
Socialists must own the disasters of socialism and should never forget it.
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Gotta be careful. Leftist college history professors give their students the Wimp Lo treatment from Kung Pow: Purposely train them wrong, as a joke.Reign in Blood wrote:It's like you were a History major or some shit.Jason wrote:I am clearly just more seasoned in history. Don't feel bad, yo.Headhunter wrote:So, yeah, you have nothing. Wasting time as usual.Jason wrote:There is no "my argument". If I told you "water is wet", you would still argue it.Headhunter wrote:Save me the trouble and make your own argument then.Jason wrote:It's actually a three hour long mini-series and cliff notes wouldn't do it justice.
Socialists must own the disasters of socialism and should never forget it.
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So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point. Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.Tiggnutz wrote:So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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It's how they weasel their way in, Tigg. AOC got in because of her safe blue district, but she came on too strong with the "unwilling to work" proposal. She outed herself as a dumbass (again, again, again).Tiggnutz wrote:So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win againHeadhunter wrote:I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.Tiggnutz wrote:So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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Automation killing industries is going to re-shape a lot of ideas about the value of work. UBI is another inevitable policy.
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Push what?Tiggnutz wrote:I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win againHeadhunter wrote:I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.Tiggnutz wrote:So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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Tiggnutz wrote:Trump will win again
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I see one person who can beat Trump and that's Biden if he pushes centrist ideas but he won't be able to he will push far left and all the people who to your face say Trump is a cock will get that bit of privacy and vote for TrumpHeadhunter wrote:Push what?Tiggnutz wrote:I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win againHeadhunter wrote:I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.Tiggnutz wrote:So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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If the point is that Democrats are horrible at messaging, I totally agree. They absolutely suck at getting their points across. They think people are motivated by facts but they aren't. People are motivated by emotions and Republicans have always been AMAZING at making emotional appeals. The only two who didn't come across as nerds or stiffs were Obama and Bill Clinton, both incredible orators and unsurprisingly, the most successful politicians in the party since the parties modernized into current form.
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The Dems just need to find someone who doesn't piss off all the working class Midwest people.Tiggnutz wrote:I see one person who can beat Trump and that's Biden if he pushes centrist ideas but he won't be able to he will push far left and all the people who to your face say Trump is a cock will get that bit of privacy and vote for TrumpHeadhunter wrote:Push what?Tiggnutz wrote:I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win againHeadhunter wrote:I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.Tiggnutz wrote:So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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Joe Biden is that person but who will get behind himHeadhunter wrote:The Dems just need to find someone who doesn't piss off all the working class Midwest people.Tiggnutz wrote:I see one person who can beat Trump and that's Biden if he pushes centrist ideas but he won't be able to he will push far left and all the people who to your face say Trump is a cock will get that bit of privacy and vote for TrumpHeadhunter wrote:Push what?Tiggnutz wrote:I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win againHeadhunter wrote:I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.Tiggnutz wrote:So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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If the Democrats get their shit together, the obvious counter-move for the Trump administration would be to take us into war. That's checkmate every time.
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You say Bernie isn't that guy but the Midwest loved him.Tiggnutz wrote:Joe Biden is that person but who will get behind himHeadhunter wrote:The Dems just need to find someone who doesn't piss off all the working class Midwest people.Tiggnutz wrote:I see one person who can beat Trump and that's Biden if he pushes centrist ideas but he won't be able to he will push far left and all the people who to your face say Trump is a cock will get that bit of privacy and vote for TrumpHeadhunter wrote:Push what?Tiggnutz wrote:I've not heard one person push this. We have gone two far to both ends of the turd and everyone can't see they are holding shit. This is why Trump will win againHeadhunter wrote:I mean, pretty much. The inevitable outcome for the U.S. is a social democracy. Corporate interests just have enough power to make it a painfully slow crawl to that point Really, just reverting to pre-1970s income tax brackets would pay for a lot of the shit we think is crazy now.Tiggnutz wrote:So just a more aggressive stance than we already have?Headhunter wrote:Capitalist economy + lots of social welfare programs.Tiggnutz wrote:I do not know social democracy what is that I'm being honestHeadhunter wrote:What they are preaching is social democracy (ex: Nordic Europe) which is a form of capitalism so there aren't any real inconsistencies.Tiggnutz wrote:It's funny all the politicians preaching socialism have made fortunes off of capitalism. It's sad the amount of people who can't see it. Someone with more houses than most people have cars telling you the danger of wealth.
Would you not get more people for it if you said it like that
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Bernie maybe but once he starts spewing socialism he's done.
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Socialism is awesome for the base but everyone else sees it as bullshit it won't fly
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Yes, the ironic thing is he'd be better off framing his views as what they actually are: a form of capitalism.
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