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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:23 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:17 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:16 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:41 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:35 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:27 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:16 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:10 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:03 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:00 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:56 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:51 pm
I am pro-responsibility
the pro-life position removes your responsibility, so i'll call you pro-choce. :P
How? It's a life? Also, if the woman decides she wants to keep it, I am now responsible for child support.
that's fair. then get rid of adoption too. if you're pro-responsibility.
"Getting rid of" is extreme. There are also couples who dreamed of having children and sometimes the guy is infertile or the woman is incapable of bearing children.
it is extreme. restricting such choices is extreme. but that's where we are.
You have the choice to not have sex. You have the choice to use contraception. I'm also not saying abortions should never happen, but I would argue that all of them are a tragedy.
it is a tragedy. it's next to murder (but not in the legal sense unless you want to open that discussion :P ) but it should still be a choice available in the country.

would you oppose any restriction on contraceptives and birth control then?
Nope.
so extreme pro-life. point taken.
You asked if I would oppose contraceptives

Edit: Oh. Appose restrictions. No. Free condoms for anyone who's hit puberty. Except don't take them out of my tax dollars.:P
well i like that answer better. :P

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:34 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:13 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:40 pm
I wouldn't say so. Disney is undergoing some exposure with undercover journalists. Disney is pushing hard against hiring straight white males for roles, put together gay pride events where naked gay guys are riding on bicycles in front of children. So wokeness and transgender indoctrination is definitely real.
it's only indoctrination to the right. it's capitalist pandering to a demographic to the left.

can you show me what those totally honest un-biased not at all to the right, undercover journalists have found?
Sure. Most of the proof is from Disney employees themselves.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ujhqvpKQg8E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vofr-cCrRU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XyffDzqb_6U

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-sntzHtOX5A

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GNDqhe70pxA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V0CqMuhk2mY

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:43 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:34 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:13 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:40 pm
I wouldn't say so. Disney is undergoing some exposure with undercover journalists. Disney is pushing hard against hiring straight white males for roles, put together gay pride events where naked gay guys are riding on bicycles in front of children. So wokeness and transgender indoctrination is definitely real.
it's only indoctrination to the right. it's capitalist pandering to a demographic to the left.

can you show me what those totally honest un-biased not at all to the right, undercover journalists have found?
Sure. Most of the proof is from Disney employees themselves.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ujhqvpKQg8E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vofr-cCrRU

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XyffDzqb_6U

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-sntzHtOX5A

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GNDqhe70pxA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V0CqMuhk2mY
first let me say that james o'keefe is certainly not unbias and definitely has an agenda to the right.

and the first video appears to be some kind of diversity quota work culture bullshit in the company because they had someone come in to sell them on how to boost creativity in the office or some crap... i thought we were talking about onscreen talent that americans would see broadly and be brainwashed by. but i'll keep watching.

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:50 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:20 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:08 pm
He's not God or some holy figure. And I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes Trump that still comes around anymore. :P

Im not against memes or fair criticism against Trump. The unfairness is blatant. Type in "assassination attempt on Trump" in Google or youtube. Content is being suppressed. It's like they're trying to hide the truth. This doesn't happen with any other candidate. Which leads me further toward the conclusion that the elites really are scared of this dude.
i was mocked for the suggestion of conspiracy related to trump by not just you. :P

what is being held back about the attempt on youtube or google? be specific. i'm not gonna let you just gesture at a boogeyman without proof.
Lots of things. Manufactured search results, things you search for often only bring up heavily left leaning news or corporate news, results only showing one side of the argument etc...
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
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Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:51 pm
by zombie
i spoke too soon. michael giordano does insinuate that actors and talent were chosen because they're non-white. i don't know for what roles. i don't know the context of any of this. but fair. you can actually spin that into a conspiracy if you want to for sure.

i would counter that non-white actors and writers have been heavily excluded for decades and decades and never was it made out to be a conspiracy so big that it fell to the door of the president at whatever time. (though sometimes it did fall to influence by other countries like the whole red scare thing)

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:53 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:51 pm i spoke too soon. michael giordano does insinuate that actors and talent were chosen because they're non-white. i don't know for what roles. i don't know the context of any of this. but fair. you can actually spin that into a conspiracy if you want to for sure.

i would counter that non-white actors and writers have been heavily excluded for decades and decades and never was it made out to be a conspiracy so big that it fell to the door of the president at whatever time. (though sometimes it did fall to influence by other countries like the whole red scare thing)
Spin what into a conspiracy? It's literally straight from the horses mouth. Lol. It's no conspiracy. It's flat out real.

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:55 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:50 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:20 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:08 pm
He's not God or some holy figure. And I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes Trump that still comes around anymore. :P

Im not against memes or fair criticism against Trump. The unfairness is blatant. Type in "assassination attempt on Trump" in Google or youtube. Content is being suppressed. It's like they're trying to hide the truth. This doesn't happen with any other candidate. Which leads me further toward the conclusion that the elites really are scared of this dude.
i was mocked for the suggestion of conspiracy related to trump by not just you. :P

what is being held back about the attempt on youtube or google? be specific. i'm not gonna let you just gesture at a boogeyman without proof.
Lots of things. Manufactured search results, things you search for often only bring up heavily left leaning news or corporate news, results only showing one side of the argument etc...
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Image
is this just autocomplete crap? i thought you meant that you literally couldn't search for donald trump assassination attempt.

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:58 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:53 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:51 pm i spoke too soon. michael giordano does insinuate that actors and talent were chosen because they're non-white. i don't know for what roles. i don't know the context of any of this. but fair. you can actually spin that into a conspiracy if you want to for sure.

i would counter that non-white actors and writers have been heavily excluded for decades and decades and never was it made out to be a conspiracy so big that it fell to the door of the president at whatever time. (though sometimes it did fall to influence by other countries like the whole red scare thing)
Spin what into a conspiracy? It's literally straight from the horses mouth. Lol. It's no conspiracy. It's flat out real.
how does this relate to biden or any democrat or even any other world leader? show me the connection? or is it just disney shit that is spun into conspiracy to implicate the democrats?

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:59 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:55 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:50 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:20 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:08 pm
He's not God or some holy figure. And I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes Trump that still comes around anymore. :P

Im not against memes or fair criticism against Trump. The unfairness is blatant. Type in "assassination attempt on Trump" in Google or youtube. Content is being suppressed. It's like they're trying to hide the truth. This doesn't happen with any other candidate. Which leads me further toward the conclusion that the elites really are scared of this dude.
i was mocked for the suggestion of conspiracy related to trump by not just you. :P

what is being held back about the attempt on youtube or google? be specific. i'm not gonna let you just gesture at a boogeyman without proof.
Lots of things. Manufactured search results, things you search for often only bring up heavily left leaning news or corporate news, results only showing one side of the argument etc...
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Image
is this just autocomplete crap? i thought you meant that you literally couldn't search for donald trump assassination attempt.
Those are just a couple examples of it that happen to have that search I mentioned. The last spoiler shows their implicit bias and manufactured search results.

I put spoilers so it wouldn't make the page load slow as hell

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:04 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:59 pm
I put spoilers so it wouldn't make the page load slow as hell
that's fair. that appears to show some kind of sexism bias with google at least. that's not what we were talking about. but fair.

but i just did those searches and got the opposite result... if you can trust a trump hater. :P

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:06 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:04 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:59 pm
I put spoilers so it wouldn't make the page load slow as hell
that's fair. that appears to show some kind of sexism bias with google at least. that's not what we were talking about. but fair.

but i just did those searches and got the opposite result... if you can trust a trump hater. :P
Which one? The "why is my _ _ _ _ _ yelling at me?"

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:07 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:06 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:04 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:59 pm
I put spoilers so it wouldn't make the page load slow as hell
that's fair. that appears to show some kind of sexism bias with google at least. that's not what we were talking about. but fair.

but i just did those searches and got the opposite result... if you can trust a trump hater. :P
Which one? The "why is my _ _ _ _ _ yelling at me?"
that's right.

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:08 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:07 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:06 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:04 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:59 pm
I put spoilers so it wouldn't make the page load slow as hell
that's fair. that appears to show some kind of sexism bias with google at least. that's not what we were talking about. but fair.

but i just did those searches and got the opposite result... if you can trust a trump hater. :P
Which one? The "why is my _ _ _ _ _ yelling at me?"
that's right.
I did it and got the same result. Wife yelling = unheard and disrespected. Husband yelling = abuse

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:14 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:08 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:07 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:06 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:04 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:59 pm
I put spoilers so it wouldn't make the page load slow as hell
that's fair. that appears to show some kind of sexism bias with google at least. that's not what we were talking about. but fair.

but i just did those searches and got the opposite result... if you can trust a trump hater. :P
Which one? The "why is my _ _ _ _ _ yelling at me?"
that's right.
I did it and got the same result. Wife yelling = unheard and disrespected. Husband yelling = abuse

okay. fair. this plays into sexist stereotypes. men are weak if they show emotion, feel hurt, want help in that way etc.

it's garbage macho bullshit. and again, not what we were talking about... but we can continue this if you want to.

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:31 pm
by zombie
i did the president d... thing and got trump as the top result when i go donald it lists donald duck second, but trump still on top. i think this has a lot to do with your own personal search history and such. but it is a disney character so maybe conspiracy!

and apparently "donald regan" is a thing. stupid google search people! :P

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:33 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:14 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:08 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:07 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:06 pm
zombie wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:04 pm
Jason wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:59 pm
I put spoilers so it wouldn't make the page load slow as hell
that's fair. that appears to show some kind of sexism bias with google at least. that's not what we were talking about. but fair.

but i just did those searches and got the opposite result... if you can trust a trump hater. :P
Which one? The "why is my _ _ _ _ _ yelling at me?"
that's right.
I did it and got the same result. Wife yelling = unheard and disrespected. Husband yelling = abuse

okay. fair. this plays into sexist stereotypes. men are weak if they show emotion, feel hurt, want help in that way etc.

it's garbage macho bullshit. and again, not what we were talking about... but we can continue this if you want to.
You asked for an example of Google having implicit bias and altering search results and I gave you those examples.

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:35 pm
by zombie
i did specifically ask about the attempt... but it's fair if you overlooked that. or weren't sure what i meant. whatever.

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:47 pm
by zombie
"president h" gets you harris (followed by hoover harding etc) ... the election is fixed already!

but the news with that search is all about biden. i didn't search for vp harris. grrr! :P

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:51 pm
by Reign in Blood
Why is zombie yelling at me goes deep.

Re: Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:54 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:51 pm Why is zombie yelling at me goes deep.
it's in your head