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Beginning to lean fairly heavily toward the conspiracy. Far too many coincidences. I can't imagine this being just a garden variety fuck up of the highest proportion since JFK. The rally wasn't even in downtown like in Dealey Plaza when JFK was killed. He's basically in an empty field, and the shooter somehow gained access to a rooftop (let alone an open window), one of the only rooftops, and countless witnesses spotted him and tried to alert the police, who apparently ignored them for the most part as the shooter ended up getting off 5-7 shots before the secret service responded?! How is it even possible that witnesses spot the shooter before the police and secret service (who are specifically trained to spot these situations) are even aware that someone with a rifle is present?

This absolutely reeks of JFK. I would not be shocked if they trotted Biden out into an open field and had him killed before the election or fire a shot that misses wildly. This shit is so bizarre. Wow. You missed, cunts. "Put him in a bullseye". Try try again. I'm sure you will. Trump has rewritten his speech for the RNC in a call for peaceful times in America.

I still have not heard a reason why the most obvious and dangerous potential shooter position was left completely open and unchecked. I work with enough government agencies to fully believe it was just blatant incompetence. Lots of stupid people have jobs they are unqualified for nowadays. Incompetence is the best case scenario. Until someone tells us something I understand people being skeptical.

if it were a professional hit intended to kill donald trump, would he miss the target 5 to 7 times? would he fire without a scope. as has been reported?

I don't think for a second it was a professional or anything coordinated but I have questions that need answers. I want someone to say "We fucked up bad on this one".

Tiggnutz wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:38 am I don't think for a second it was a professional or anything coordinated but I have questions that need answers. I want someone to say "We fucked up bad on this one".

that's understandable. and yeah, it was clearly a big fuck up in a lot of directions.

If this wasn't just an incompetent fuck up and the deep state was behind this, if they realize they won't be able to kill Trump they'll incite a race war. Attack a black church or college and blame it on a Trump supporter. These people are absolutely evil.

Jason wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:09 pm If this wasn't just an incompetent fuck up and the deep state was behind this, if they realize they won't be able to kill Trump they'll incite a race war. Attack a black church or college and blame it on a Trump supporter. These people are absolutely evil.

if a black church or college is attacked by a trump supporter, he and all of the favorable media pundits and supporters will shout false flag or fed from the rooftops. so this point is moot.

and they already have, with the capitol breach.

They opened gates and let Trump supporters in hoping they'd tear the capital apart and all they did was take pictures.

It's a pattern throughout history. Trump is going to call for peace at his convention and if the deep state was involved, they'll try killing him again and/or start a race war.

if trump calls for peace, and doesn't point a finger toward biden or pelosi, that will be the most against his m.o. thing that he's ever done.

zombie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:37 pm if trump calls for peace, and doesn't point a finger toward biden or pelosi, that will be the most against his m.o. thing that he's ever done.

I don't think he will, but we'll see. And he has every right to point fingers at them after all the violence they and the media have incited.

Jason wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:40 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:37 pm if trump calls for peace, and doesn't point a finger toward biden or pelosi, that will be the most against his m.o. thing that he's ever done.

I don't think he will, but we'll see. And he has every right to point fingers at them after all the violence they and the media have incited.

you'll say anything to defend trump, so this isn't worth continuing.

zombie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:43 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:40 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:37 pm if trump calls for peace, and doesn't point a finger toward biden or pelosi, that will be the most against his m.o. thing that he's ever done.

I don't think he will, but we'll see. And he has every right to point fingers at them after all the violence they and the media have incited.

you'll say anything to defend trump, so this isn't worth continuing.

I mean, he was just shot in the head after almost a decade of the left inciting violence. But I understand. Politics is crazy.

Jason wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:46 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:43 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:40 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:37 pm if trump calls for peace, and doesn't point a finger toward biden or pelosi, that will be the most against his m.o. thing that he's ever done.

I don't think he will, but we'll see. And he has every right to point fingers at them after all the violence they and the media have incited.

you'll say anything to defend trump, so this isn't worth continuing.

I mean, he was just shot in the head after almost a decade of the left inciting violence. But I understand. Politics is crazy.

nancy pelosi's husband was beaten after years of her and her party being accused of being pedophile cannibal witches in an evil cabal to destroy america, and jokes were made by your hero in that aftermath, and i didn't jump to her defense. and certainly not at every possible chance i got. so yeah.

Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:47 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:42 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:39 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:37 pm

Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:36 pm

zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:24 pm i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

What specific shit?

the donald trump attempt. i assume that's what you meant when you said that about the last 24 hours.

Shift discussion away from the Donald Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion?

I'm not sure what you mean by something hitting too close to home for me. What would hit close to home for me?

well, yeah. we've said everything we can about that right now, without talking in circles.

cause you seem to be deeply invested in donald trump and what you think he represents, as a voter fanboy?

I've always been for the pursuit of truth. Trump could be putting up a front for all I know but he seems genuine to me so that's why he has my vote. And the leftist media calling for violence coupled with an assassination attempt only further confirms my suspicions that maybe he really is out to get the establishment and they'll stop at nothing to keep him from getting power again.

"Leftist" means anti-capitalist - there is no mainstream anti-capitalist media in this country. The media here - CNN, MSNBC, etc. - are all pro-status quo, and never (and I mean never) even talk to actual leftists.

Just your friendly neighborhood socialist pointing out that Democrats are as much the enemy to progress as Republicans. Look into third party options, as continually voting in the two party system will never change a damn thing in this country.

I just skimmed this thread, so maybe I missed it, but I have to ask.

I know that Jason's mentioned possible conspiracy theories - has he mentioned the possibility that the attempt was planned by either Trump or someone on Trump's team?

After getting nicked in the ear, one of the first things Trump does is raise his fist in what has to be one of the most victorious pictures I've seen in my life (and indeed is going to be one of the images that defines this election).

Now, I'm not saying that this is the case - I doubt Trump would risk his life in such a fashion - but if you want to talk conspiracy theory, that's literally the first thought that came to my mind immediately following the shooting.

Not only is there is no recognizable leftist media outside of a comedy podcast, even what we would call the “liberal media” has been bought off by right wing billionaires. Go look up CNN’s CEO John Malone. Huge Trump supporter.

Kid matches the average school shooter profile. Classmates remembered him as a conservative and he was a registered Republican. There’s likely no political motive, just the typical loser who can’t get bitches and wants to be famous. Just a collective failure from local police and secret service. Until evidence emerges disputing any of this, this is what I believe. I say that as someone who has read an absurd amount of JFK assassination literature.

Headhunter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:55 pm Kid matches the average school shooter profile. Classmates remembered him as a conservative and he was a registered Republican. There’s likely no political motive, just the typical loser who can’t get bitches and wants to be famous. Just a collective failure from local police and secret service. Until evidence emerges disputing any of this, this is what I believe. I say that as someone who has read an absurd amount of JFK assassination literature.

It's definitely interesting the amount of JFK we've read and studied and end up on polar opposite viewpoints of this. But I also haven't fully committed one way or another. Doubt we'll ever truly know.

".. the braveheart of our times" - poor words chosen, after recent events.

Biden should show the country that he isn't currently a walking corpse and fire the Director of the Secret Service who's excuse for not having people on the roof the shooter used was it was too sloped and would be unsafe for people to be on. Are you fucking serious right now lol