Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:12 am
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J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
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Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:14 am
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:18 am
I have to admit I don't know a lot about Walz, but off the top of my head, I have nothing against him (aside from the fact he's a Democrat and is running with Harris).
I doubt the pick will matter much - I've become increasingly convinced in the last week that Harris is going to breeze to a victory, and while it might be close in total vote counts, electorally, I think she has it in the bag.
Which is a damn disappointment, because the only thing I really care about is increased third party and independent vote shares, and I don't know if we'll be able to match a 50% increase from 2016's totals if we keep on this track (especially with the pathetic nature I've seen recently from RFK Jr.).
I doubt the pick will matter much - I've become increasingly convinced in the last week that Harris is going to breeze to a victory, and while it might be close in total vote counts, electorally, I think she has it in the bag.
Which is a damn disappointment, because the only thing I really care about is increased third party and independent vote shares, and I don't know if we'll be able to match a 50% increase from 2016's totals if we keep on this track (especially with the pathetic nature I've seen recently from RFK Jr.).
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:39 am
I still have it going to Trump. I don't know if Harris can get the electoral votes but it's gonna be real close. Maybe if she blows him out in a debate it could swing and she has to have the national media shelter her from any real policy questions. They were most likely going to do that anyway.Jigsaw wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:18 am I have to admit I don't know a lot about Walz, but off the top of my head, I have nothing against him (aside from the fact he's a Democrat and is running with Harris).
I doubt the pick will matter much - I've become increasingly convinced in the last week that Harris is going to breeze to a victory, and while it might be close in total vote counts, electorally, I think she has it in the bag.
Which is a damn disappointment, because the only thing I really care about is increased third party and independent vote shares, and I don't know if we'll be able to match a 50% increase from 2016's totals if we keep on this track (especially with the pathetic nature I've seen recently from RFK Jr.).
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:36 pm
Harris just needs to get Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and they will get the 270 they need. Hillary didn’t think the Midwest was important, I expect a full court press in those three states. Things are trending well in all three since Biden dropped out but Pennsylvania is both the most important and the tightest in polls.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 1:19 pm
And also fortified I believe.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:22 pm
Never heard of the guy, but I generally don't pay attention to local politicians that aren't local to me.Headhunter wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:00 am Tim Walz was the best possible VP pick and makes Trump picking JD Vance even more embarrassing. He will wipe the floor with that buffoon on stage.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:23 pm
In order for a third party candidate to even have a chance, we would need to get rid of the electoral college. Good luck with that, though, as the people that can do that love the status quo.Jigsaw wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:18 am Which is a damn disappointment, because the only thing I really care about is increased third party and independent vote shares, and I don't know if we'll be able to match a 50% increase from 2016's totals if we keep on this track (especially with the pathetic nature I've seen recently from RFK Jr.).
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:21 pm
Indeed. Best I can do is keep voting third party, encouraging others to do so, and slowly die in this capitalist hell-hole both liberals and conservatives call "the best country on Earth."Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:23 pmIn order for a third party candidate to even have a chance, we would need to get rid of the electoral college. Good luck with that, though, as the people that can do that love the status quo.Jigsaw wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:18 am Which is a damn disappointment, because the only thing I really care about is increased third party and independent vote shares, and I don't know if we'll be able to match a 50% increase from 2016's totals if we keep on this track (especially with the pathetic nature I've seen recently from RFK Jr.).
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:29 pm
Venezuela?Jigsaw wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:21 pmIndeed. Best I can do is keep voting third party, encouraging others to do so, and slowly die in this capitalist hell-hole both liberals and conservatives call "the best country on Earth."Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:23 pmIn order for a third party candidate to even have a chance, we would need to get rid of the electoral college. Good luck with that, though, as the people that can do that love the status quo.Jigsaw wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:18 am Which is a damn disappointment, because the only thing I really care about is increased third party and independent vote shares, and I don't know if we'll be able to match a 50% increase from 2016's totals if we keep on this track (especially with the pathetic nature I've seen recently from RFK Jr.).
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:23 pm
Boxes he checks:Slaughterhouserock wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:22 pmNever heard of the guy, but I generally don't pay attention to local politicians that aren't local to me.Headhunter wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:00 am Tim Walz was the best possible VP pick and makes Trump picking JD Vance even more embarrassing. He will wipe the floor with that buffoon on stage.
1. Popular with both the center and left of the Party, a frequently divided coalition
2. Very popular with his constituents in Minnesota as governor
3. Rose through the ranks as a Democrat in a historically red district, so he has proven he can connect with rural voters
4. Outdoors-y “man’s man” type rather than the pencil-neck lawyer profile that typically dominates the Democrats and is disliked by most working class voters
5. Very effective communicator, great on TV
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:28 pm
Trump is now just writing angry fan fiction about Biden getting back in the race lmao. They have completely unraveled since Biden dropped out. Harris now leading polls with independents.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:13 pm
He's a bit of a socialism shill and a pander pick to try to get the Muslim vote in a crucial state imo.
Also, the notion that Tampon Tim is a man's man is one of the most awful takes this board has ever seen.
Also, the notion that Tampon Tim is a man's man is one of the most awful takes this board has ever seen.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:42 pm
I was vaguely aware of some of this stuff, but a decent presentation nonetheless. Worth a watch if you're open minded.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:38 pm
His actual voting record is basically as centrist as it gets. But conservatives always accuse every Democrat of being a radical communist, it’s just funny at this point. The punches don’t land. America likes Tim Walz. Great pick.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:02 am
What I've seen doesn't reflect that. he's fairly split in favorable and unfavorable and in the overall, the overwhelming majority (71%) don't know who he is. He allowed Minnesota to burn, which is a big no-no. You can't trust this dude to protect the country.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:55 am
Walz isn't a socialist. If he was, I might consider voting for the ticket, as absolutely horrible as Harris is.
Signed, a socialist who is voting for Claudia De la Cruz, an actual socialist.
Signed, a socialist who is voting for Claudia De la Cruz, an actual socialist.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:24 am
Pure socialism, like pure anything(including capitalism), isn't something I agree with. Some socialist programs are great though, so I don't see why people freak out about it. Social security, medicare/medicaid, snap(which personally helped me to survive being unemployed), etc. are all great. People just seem to be very self-focused, so if they don't use a program, they see it as a scam.
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:45 pm
Re: J.D. Vance = Trump's VP
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:53 pm
No he didn’t. This is another bad right wing talking point that isn’t working. He sent in the National Guard when the mayors requested help. Even your guy Trump was praising him in 2020 for how he handled the protests. It is very funny that Trump is now changing his stance on this in hindsight, but the public record shows he could not have praised Walz more when the situation was actually playing out. In which case, I guess we can’t trust Trump to protect the country.