Reign in Blood wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:00 pm
BTW, I'm good with every time something goes wrong and a female or minority has a hand in it, we blame it on DEI. I'm all for efficiency and that is a good time saver.
Good. And the next time it happens and you "don't know what I'm on about" you can't just slander who I am and accuse me of using it as my opportunity to shit on women and "blackeys" as you put it.
Is there any evidence other than idiots on twitter that this was caused by DEI ineptitude?
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:37 pm
show proof that hiring women was done in disregard to their qualification for the job, instead of blasting out with all of the diversity inclusion equity is bad! talking points?
The proof is all over Endeavor and Delta's websites. These airlines themselves list one of their top priorities is promoting DEI and we are supposed to assume that DEI has absolutely nothing to do with it? They suddenly can't even perform a routine landing and there is no reason to question their intentions at all?
we're supposed to be discerning and do our research and not fall into misinformation and agenda bias. i want to see proof and you're yelling at me that i'm being dumb and not listening to the agenda.
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:37 pm
show proof that hiring women was done in disregard to their qualification for the job, instead of blasting out with all of the diversity inclusion equity is bad! talking points?
The proof is all over Endeavor and Delta's websites. These airlines themselves list one of their top priorities is promoting DEI and we are supposed to assume that DEI has absolutely nothing to do with it? They suddenly can't even perform a routine landing and there is no reason to question their intentions at all?
we're supposed to be discerning and do our research and not fall into misinformation and agenda bias. i want to see proof and you're yelling at me that i'm being dumb and not listening to the agenda.
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:37 pm
show proof that hiring women was done in disregard to their qualification for the job, instead of blasting out with all of the diversity inclusion equity is bad! talking points?
The proof is all over Endeavor and Delta's websites. These airlines themselves list one of their top priorities is promoting DEI and we are supposed to assume that DEI has absolutely nothing to do with it? They suddenly can't even perform a routine landing and there is no reason to question their intentions at all?
we're supposed to be discerning and do our research and not fall into misinformation and agenda bias. i want to see proof and you're yelling at me that i'm being dumb and not listening to the agenda.
Where in the blue hell did I ever tell you that you're dumb or not listening to an agenda?
DEI, imo was taken a bit too far by corporate America and let's keep it real. It only became important after the Floyd Riots. Those riots got crazy out of control only due to people having nothing but time on their hands due to the stupid COVID lockdowns. DEI wasn't a priority of the big corporations until that happened and it's questionable just how effective they even were.
I don't think DEI is necessarily a bad thing. But I do feel some companies took it too far.
This is all just my opinion. I'm not an expert on such things.
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:37 pm
show proof that hiring women was done in disregard to their qualification for the job, instead of blasting out with all of the diversity inclusion equity is bad! talking points?
The proof is all over Endeavor and Delta's websites. These airlines themselves list one of their top priorities is promoting DEI and we are supposed to assume that DEI has absolutely nothing to do with it? They suddenly can't even perform a routine landing and there is no reason to question their intentions at all?
we're supposed to be discerning and do our research and not fall into misinformation and agenda bias. i want to see proof and you're yelling at me that i'm being dumb and not listening to the agenda.
Where in the blue hell did I ever tell you that you're dumb or not listening to an agenda?
you just said that the proof is women, like that's what i should be looking for and not actual proof. but this isn't going anywhere, it seems.
Lazerus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:18 pm
DEI, imo was taken a bit too far by corporate America and let's keep it real. It only became important after the Floyd Riots. Those riots got crazy out of control only due to people having nothing but time on their hands due to the stupid COVID lockdowns. DEI wasn't a priority of the big corporations until that happened and it's questionable just how effective they even were.
I don't think DEI is necessarily a bad thing. But I do feel some companies took it too far.
This is all just my opinion. I'm not an expert on such things.
That's my experience. They shoved it too much, but end of the day my work just made a point to celebrate more holidays (foreign or gay etc), and looked at more resumes. The hiring still pretty much followed norms. Tech/manufacturing company, and while sad, but only 5 black people ever really work there at any given time. Mainly white, asian and indian straight males.
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:20 pm
you just said that the proof is women
No, I didn't. You asked me to prove that DEI had something to do with the improper landing and I said the fact that the airlines themselves who are responsible for the crash promotes DEI as one of their top priorities of their airline is reason enough to be suspicious.
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:20 pm
you just said that the proof is women
No, I didn't. You asked me to prove that DEI had something to do with the improper landing and I said the fact that the airlines themselves who are responsible for the crash promotes DEI as one of their top priorities of their airline is reason enough to be suspicious.
fair. be suspicious. the sources are not just being suspicious. they are spreading an agenda maliciously, to look at anyone that's not white male as unqualified or incapable only for the fact of them not being white or male.
it also takes companies off the hook for cutting costs. for bad maintenance. overworked employees etc.
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:20 pm
you just said that the proof is women
No, I didn't. You asked me to prove that DEI had something to do with the improper landing and I said the fact that the airlines themselves who are responsible for the crash promotes DEI as one of their top priorities of their airline is reason enough to be suspicious.
fair. be suspicious. the sources are not just being suspicious. they are spreading an agenda maliciously, to look at anyone that's not white male as unqualified or incapable only for the fact of them not being white or male.
it also takes companies off the hook for cutting costs. for bad maintenance. overworked employees etc.
If the companies were not promoting DEI heavily, nobody would be slamming them. So now everyone can hide behind DEI and just accuse anyone of criticizing it as maliciously attacking women because of sexism. Which just isn't true.
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:20 pm
you just said that the proof is women
No, I didn't. You asked me to prove that DEI had something to do with the improper landing and I said the fact that the airlines themselves who are responsible for the crash promotes DEI as one of their top priorities of their airline is reason enough to be suspicious.
fair. be suspicious. the sources are not just being suspicious. they are spreading an agenda maliciously, to look at anyone that's not white male as unqualified or incapable only for the fact of them not being white or male.
it also takes companies off the hook for cutting costs. for bad maintenance. overworked employees etc.
If the companies were not promoting DEI heavily, nobody would be slamming them. So now everyone can hide behind DEI and just accuse anyone of criticizing it as maliciously attacking women because of sexism. Which just isn't true.
before dei was the target, it was affirmative action. people with an agenda always have a bullshit talking point. advertising diversity is not proof that that diversity is incapable of doing the job that they were hired for, no matter how many times steven crowder says so, or how loudly charlie kirk swears that it is so.
zombie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:20 pm
you just said that the proof is women
No, I didn't. You asked me to prove that DEI had something to do with the improper landing and I said the fact that the airlines themselves who are responsible for the crash promotes DEI as one of their top priorities of their airline is reason enough to be suspicious.
fair. be suspicious. the sources are not just being suspicious. they are spreading an agenda maliciously, to look at anyone that's not white male as unqualified or incapable only for the fact of them not being white or male.
it also takes companies off the hook for cutting costs. for bad maintenance. overworked employees etc.
If the companies were not promoting DEI heavily, nobody would be slamming them. So now everyone can hide behind DEI and just accuse anyone of criticizing it as maliciously attacking women because of sexism. Which just isn't true.
before dei was the target, it was affirmative action. people with an agenda always have a bullshit talking point. advertising diversity is not proof that that diversity is incapable of doing the job that they were hired for, no matter how many times steven crowder says so, or how loudly charlie kirk swears that it is so.
I can argue that people or political movements that create and promote ideas like affirmative action and DEI also have an agenda. I don't follow Kirk or Crowder, but if they're calling a stupid program a stupid program then more power to them.
Jason wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:47 pm
I can argue that people or political movements that create and promote ideas like affirmative action and DEI also have an agenda. I don't follow Kirk or Crowder, but if they're calling a stupid program a stupid program then more power to them.
call it a stupid program as much as you want. but don't be offended when i ask for proof that that stupid program is actually the reason for this crash or the reason that movie failed at the box office or the reason that your favorite soda was out of stock at the local 7-11.
Jason wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:47 pm
I can argue that people or political movements that create and promote ideas like affirmative action and DEI also have an agenda. I don't follow Kirk or Crowder, but if they're calling a stupid program a stupid program then more power to them.
call it a stupid program as much as you want. but don't be offended when i ask for proof that that stupid program is actually the reason for this crash or the reason that movie failed at the box office or the reason that your favorite soda was out of stock at the local 7-11.
When they promote the stupid program and make it part of their brand, and they suddenly start crashing planes or fail at the box office, can you prove the stupid program had nothing to do with it?
Jason wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:47 pm
I can argue that people or political movements that create and promote ideas like affirmative action and DEI also have an agenda. I don't follow Kirk or Crowder, but if they're calling a stupid program a stupid program then more power to them.
call it a stupid program as much as you want. but don't be offended when i ask for proof that that stupid program is actually the reason for this crash or the reason that movie failed at the box office or the reason that your favorite soda was out of stock at the local 7-11.
When they promote the stupid program and make it part of their brand, and they suddenly start crashing planes or fail at the box office, can you prove the stupid program had nothing to do with it?
that is insinuation and gossip until it can proven. when insinuation and gossip is stated as fact or certainty by media figures, it's either malice, or maybe those public figures are incapable of doing their jobs correctly.
Jason wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:47 pm
I can argue that people or political movements that create and promote ideas like affirmative action and DEI also have an agenda. I don't follow Kirk or Crowder, but if they're calling a stupid program a stupid program then more power to them.
call it a stupid program as much as you want. but don't be offended when i ask for proof that that stupid program is actually the reason for this crash or the reason that movie failed at the box office or the reason that your favorite soda was out of stock at the local 7-11.
When they promote the stupid program and make it part of their brand, and they suddenly start crashing planes or fail at the box office, can you prove the stupid program had nothing to do with it?
that is insinuation and gossip until it can proven. when insinuation and gossip is stated as fact or certainty by media figures, it's either malice, or maybe those public figures are incapable of doing their jobs correctly.
It is also insinuation and gossip to assume after leaving my dog alone in the house for an hour and come home to trash strewn about the house, that the dog is responsible. I didn't see it happen. Could've been a hobo or Oscar the Grouch. It is malice to insinuate the dog is responsible with no proof.
Jason wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:47 pm
I can argue that people or political movements that create and promote ideas like affirmative action and DEI also have an agenda. I don't follow Kirk or Crowder, but if they're calling a stupid program a stupid program then more power to them.
call it a stupid program as much as you want. but don't be offended when i ask for proof that that stupid program is actually the reason for this crash or the reason that movie failed at the box office or the reason that your favorite soda was out of stock at the local 7-11.
When they promote the stupid program and make it part of their brand, and they suddenly start crashing planes or fail at the box office, can you prove the stupid program had nothing to do with it?
that is insinuation and gossip until it can proven. when insinuation and gossip is stated as fact or certainty by media figures, it's either malice, or maybe those public figures are incapable of doing their jobs correctly.
It is also insinuation and gossip to assume after leaving my dog alone in the house for an hour and come home to trash strewn about the house, that the dog is responsible. I didn't see it happen. Could've been a hobo or Oscar the Grouch. It is malice to insinuate the dog is responsible with no proof.
okay. we can make up silly scenario after scenario to justify our position... but i don't wanna. i am glad to hear that everyone aboard that flight survived, despite the crash, fire, and flip over by the incapable and unqualified pilot and flight crew.
"I want to express my deep appreciation and thanks for the crew on board the plane. Our Endeavor crew performed heroically, but also as expected. This is what we train for," The fact that they were able to evacuate that plane as expeditiously as they did under extreme conditions coupled with the fact that all 80 people walked off the plane with limited physical injuries was really a testament to the safety that's embedded in the systems."
here, here! may all dei hires or otherwise handle every bad situation so well.
