The Essence of Super Hero Movies

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The Essence of Super Hero Movies

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that comes across as more true of scifi action stuff, to me. like planet of the apes or something. and it's still just about lazy trailer making, rather than "the essence of super hero movies". :P
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The point is people still go in droves to see it. :p

You know those annoying "you win! Click to claim your prize!" ads? Those exist because people click on them. :p
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people watch things you don't like. those people are obviously stupid and being tricked into watching them! :P
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I just want different shit in theaters once in a while. lol
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that's fair enough. support the smaller movies when they do come, and they'll come more often. and i know i'm part of the problem cause i don't watch movies at the theater much at all anymore, but yeah.
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Jason wrote:The point is people still go in droves to see it. :p

You know those annoying "you win! Click to claim your prize!" ads? Those exist because people click on them. :p
We must see it the same day it comes out! It is not like the entire thing is literally preserved on film or anything...
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i don't enjoy the movie. everyone should share my taste, dammit!
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zombie wrote:i don't enjoy the movie. everyone should share my taste, dammit!
It is not that any of them are so bad. It just gets very repetitive. Plug and play different characters into the same story.

It is just like Super Mario Brothers. How many times can you play it before it gets old? Swapping out Mario with Luigi is not really enhancing the experience.
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Final battles in every superhero film have become such a chore I just find myself hoping they last 5 minutes instead of 15. Can't do it
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:i don't enjoy the movie. everyone should share my taste, dammit!
It is not that any of them are so bad. It just gets very repetitive. Plug and play different characters into the same story.

It is just like Super Mario Brothers. How many times can you play it before it gets old? Swapping out Mario with Luigi is not really enhancing the experience.
it's the same story on a basic level, maybe. spider man: homecoming didn't feel like wonder woman. wonder woman didn't feel like logan.
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this is what I don't get. You have a character like Batman. You have much of the sets built. Why not make a street level Batman that is a low budget detective story to give him some depth and the audience a different story? Just pick an old Sherlock Holmes story and plug Batman into it. Don't make it some epic about destroying the city. Maybe make it a simple heist he foils. That would be so refreshing.

Then people would actually give a shit about the character when you do the bigger ones, rather than looking at some CGI Sprite bouncing all over the screen with explosions all over the place!
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i have no problem with you guys not liking the movies, but making it out that other people are stupid cause they still do is kind of lame. that's all.
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Foo wrote:this is what I don't get. You have a character like Batman. You have much of the sets built. Why not make a street level Batman that is a low budget detective story to give him some depth and the audience a different story? Just pick an old Sherlock Holmes story and plug Batman into it. Don't make it some epic about destroying the city. Maybe make it a simple heist he foils. That would be so refreshing.

Then people would actually give a shit about the character when you do the bigger ones, rather than looking at some CGI Sprite bouncing all over the screen with explosions all over the place!
Because this is the ADHD generation and blowing shit up is a money maker? You're right that it's tired, but are you actually confused?
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Logan is the only interesting superhero movie to come out in the past 5 or so years. Not to say it's the only enjoyable one, it's just the only interesting one.
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You know why the 78 Superman movie stands out so much today? It doesn't end in a fist fight.

I feel like we have lost the essence of a superhero being about morals and intelligence, rather than who is the punchiest, strongest, or who has the most powerful lasers.
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Foo wrote:You know why the 78 Superman movie stands out so much today? It doesn't end in a fist fight.

I feel like we have lost the essence of a superhero being about morals and intelligence, rather than who is the punchiest, strongest, or who has the most powerful lasers.
i don't think we have lost that. if it was all about who is the punchiest or who has the most lasers, justice league wouldn't have tanked. transformers wouldn't be suffering. etc. there is more to it than that. people still want good movies.
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Foo wrote:this is what I don't get. You have a character like Batman. You have much of the sets built. Why not make a street level Batman that is a low budget detective story to give him some depth and the audience a different story? Just pick an old Sherlock Holmes story and plug Batman into it. Don't make it some epic about destroying the city. Maybe make it a simple heist he foils. That would be so refreshing.

Then people would actually give a shit about the character when you do the bigger ones, rather than looking at some CGI Sprite bouncing all over the screen with explosions all over the place!
As far as I know, there were plans of doing something like that in the upcoming "The Batman" film.
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i think some of the movies do get lost in the spectacle. (guardians 2, dr. strange) and more risk could be taken and more character moments and more stakes in the movies. but with that, you risk alienating fans if you change up things too much.

friday the 13th was pretty much plug and play and formulaic. but when they changed up the formula, it began to lose fans (or possibly lost fans retroactively, looking back at the later films?). the same could happen with the mcu. and i think that changing the formula for the dceu movies could bring in new fans and make people more interested again. we'll see how things go.

but i think that it's a mistake to assume that the people who do like the movies as they are, must be stupid or misled in some way or whatever. they just happen to like something that you don't like. not a big deal. movies are all subjective.
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Watchmen is undervalued for Superhero movies
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