Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

[Jason]

can we stop pretending the media is only the part of it that doesn't like trump or the republicans.

tucker carlson gets more viewers than anyone else on tv, reportedly. joe rogan is the most watched podcast on the planet, reportedly. elon musk is near the richest man in the world and he owns his own megaphone soapbox echo chamber, then we've got crowder, prager, shapiro, pool, rubin etc. kid rock yells about stay away from our kids while he fires a machine gun into a bunch of beer cans. jk rowling is calling for the heads of all transpeople. but none of them are ever the media...

There is plenty of media that likes Trump. The media that doesn't like Trump has been egging on violence for years.

[zombie]

can we stop pretending the media is only the part of it that doesn't like trump or the republicans.

tucker carlson gets more viewers than anyone else on tv, reportedly. joe rogan is the most watched podcast on the planet, reportedly. elon musk is near the richest man in the world and he owns his own megaphone soapbox echo chamber, then we've got crowder, prager, shapiro, pool, rubin etc. kid rock yells about stay away from our kids while he fires a machine gun into a bunch of beer cans. jk rowling is calling for the heads of all transpeople. but none of them are ever the media...

There is plenty of media that likes Trump. The media that doesn't like Trump has been egging on violence for years.

"the media" as a term is used by members of the media to indicate that there is some evil cabal and they are not part of it. instead of people with their own agency and beliefs who align with other people that think similarly they all have to be movie villain henchmen. these people that use the term that way are part of the media too and actually have more reach and influence than "the media" that they are crying about, at least in the case of musk, carlson, and rogan.

and they do skirt the line of explicitly calling for violence against their opposition, at least as much as the democrat or left leaning portion of the media.

[Jason]

I definitely disagree, but this last 24 hours has been chaotic so I'll just leave it at that.

[zombie]

i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

[Jason]

i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

What specific shit?

[zombie]

i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

What specific shit?

the donald trump attempt. i assume that's what you meant when you said that about the last 24 hours.

[Jason]

i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

What specific shit?

the donald trump attempt. i assume that's what you meant when you said that about the last 24 hours.

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I'm not sure what you mean by something hitting too close to home for me. What would hit close to home for me?

[zombie]

i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

What specific shit?

the donald trump attempt. i assume that's what you meant when you said that about the last 24 hours.

Shift discussion away from the Donald Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion?

I'm not sure what you mean by something hitting too close to home for me. What would hit close to home for me?

well, yeah. we've said everything we can about that right now, without talking in circles.

cause you seem to be deeply invested in donald trump and what you think he represents, as a voter fanboy?

[Jason]

i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

What specific shit?

the donald trump attempt. i assume that's what you meant when you said that about the last 24 hours.

Shift discussion away from the Donald Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion?

I'm not sure what you mean by something hitting too close to home for me. What would hit close to home for me?

well, yeah. we've said everything we can about that right now, without talking in circles.

cause you seem to be deeply invested in donald trump and what you think he represents, as a voter fanboy?

I've always been for the pursuit of truth. Trump could be putting up a front for all I know but he seems genuine to me so that's why he has my vote. And the leftist media calling for violence coupled with an assassination attempt only further confirms my suspicions that maybe he really is out to get the establishment and they'll stop at nothing to keep him from getting power again.

[zombie]

i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

What specific shit?

the donald trump attempt. i assume that's what you meant when you said that about the last 24 hours.

Shift discussion away from the Donald Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion?

I'm not sure what you mean by something hitting too close to home for me. What would hit close to home for me?

well, yeah. we've said everything we can about that right now, without talking in circles.

cause you seem to be deeply invested in donald trump and what you think he represents, as a voter fanboy?

I've always been for the pursuit of truth. Trump could be putting up a front for all I know but he seems genuine to me so that's why he has my vote. And the leftist media calling for violence coupled with an assassination attempt only further confirms my suspicions that maybe he really is out to get the establishment and they'll stop at nothing to keep him from getting power again.

well he did nothing significant against the establishment the last time he served office. and he has pretty much become a lock for a second term. i guess he could live up to your belief in him this time.

[Jason]

i was intending to pull the discussion away from this specific shit, and make it more broad. but if it's too close to home for you, i get that. fair enough.

What specific shit?

the donald trump attempt. i assume that's what you meant when you said that about the last 24 hours.

Shift discussion away from the Donald Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion?

I'm not sure what you mean by something hitting too close to home for me. What would hit close to home for me?

well, yeah. we've said everything we can about that right now, without talking in circles.

cause you seem to be deeply invested in donald trump and what you think he represents, as a voter fanboy?

I've always been for the pursuit of truth. Trump could be putting up a front for all I know but he seems genuine to me so that's why he has my vote. And the leftist media calling for violence coupled with an assassination attempt only further confirms my suspicions that maybe he really is out to get the establishment and they'll stop at nothing to keep him from getting power again.

well he did nothing significant against the establishment the last time he served office. and he has pretty much become a lock for a second term. i guess he could live up to your belief in him this time.

He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.

[zombie]

He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.

he hasn't indicated that in his actions, as it relates to the establishment and their power or influence. he has set in motion reform as far as rights that the citizens of the country had gained. and possibly also granted more power to the establishment, himself included as a probable second term president.

[Jason]

He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.

he hasn't indicated that in his actions, as it relates to the establishment and their power or influence. he has set in motion reform as far as rights that the citizens of the country had gained. and possibly also granted more power to the establishment, himself included as a probable second term president.

I guess we just see it differently. You could be right for all anyone of us really know. But this pattern of demonization and persecution against him from the establishment at the very moment he started running has never ceased, and it's too big of a coincidence for me to ignore. It leads me to believe that the corrupt people who pull strings behind the curtains who we don't see are terrified that he is going to strip away their stranglehold over the free world. And I think he's starting to chip away at it. Just my take. I could be wrong.

[Lazerus]

Jason,

Project 2025 is not a good blueprint to follow yet Trump and his crew seem to be following it somewhat from what I’ve seen. (I could be wrong) but, All I see is an attempt to move the country towards authoritarianism and that’s never worked well throughout history.

Anyway that’s my two cents.

[Jason]

Jason,

Project 2025 is not a good blueprint to follow yet Trump and his crew seem to be following it somewhat from what I’ve seen. (I could be wrong) but, All I see is an attempt to move the country towards authoritarianism and that’s never worked well throughout history.

Anyway that’s my two cents.

I haven't dug enough into that to have an opinion yet. But I will take a look at some point for sure.

[Lazerus]

Jason,

Project 2025 is not a good blueprint to follow yet Trump and his crew seem to be following it somewhat from what I’ve seen. (I could be wrong) but, All I see is an attempt to move the country towards authoritarianism and that’s never worked well throughout history.

Anyway that’s my two cents.

I haven't dug enough into that to have an opinion yet. But I will take a look at some point for sure.

You should look into it. I’m curious to hear your opinion about it.

[zombie]

He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.

he hasn't indicated that in his actions, as it relates to the establishment and their power or influence. he has set in motion reform as far as rights that the citizens of the country had gained. and possibly also granted more power to the establishment, himself included as a probable second term president.

I guess we just see it differently. You could be right for all anyone of us really know. But this pattern of demonization and persecution against him from the establishment at the very moment he started running has never ceased, and it's too big of a coincidence for me to ignore. It leads me to believe that the corrupt people who pull strings behind the curtains who we don't see are terrified that he is going to strip away their stranglehold over the free world. And I think he's starting to chip away at it. Just my take. I could be wrong.

you could read it that way. that is certainly what he spouts out and a large part of the media and political establishment also parrot that message.

[Jason]

He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.

he hasn't indicated that in his actions, as it relates to the establishment and their power or influence. he has set in motion reform as far as rights that the citizens of the country had gained. and possibly also granted more power to the establishment, himself included as a probable second term president.

I guess we just see it differently. You could be right for all anyone of us really know. But this pattern of demonization and persecution against him from the establishment at the very moment he started running has never ceased, and it's too big of a coincidence for me to ignore. It leads me to believe that the corrupt people who pull strings behind the curtains who we don't see are terrified that he is going to strip away their stranglehold over the free world. And I think he's starting to chip away at it. Just my take. I could be wrong.

you could read it that way. that is certainly what he spouts out and a large part of the media and political establishment also parrot that message.

You're saying the political establishment parrots the message that Trump is going to stop the political establishment?

[zombie]

He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.

he hasn't indicated that in his actions, as it relates to the establishment and their power or influence. he has set in motion reform as far as rights that the citizens of the country had gained. and possibly also granted more power to the establishment, himself included as a probable second term president.

I guess we just see it differently. You could be right for all anyone of us really know. But this pattern of demonization and persecution against him from the establishment at the very moment he started running has never ceased, and it's too big of a coincidence for me to ignore. It leads me to believe that the corrupt people who pull strings behind the curtains who we don't see are terrified that he is going to strip away their stranglehold over the free world. And I think he's starting to chip away at it. Just my take. I could be wrong.

you could read it that way. that is certainly what he spouts out and a large part of the media and political establishment also parrot that message.

You're saying the political establishment parrots the message that Trump is going to stop the political establishment?

you seem to believe that the establishment is some kind of organization like james bond's spectre. i don't see it so simplistically. it's more of different factions with their own intentions rather than a top down kind of system where a blofeld figure or set of figures calls all the shots.

[Jason]

He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.

he hasn't indicated that in his actions, as it relates to the establishment and their power or influence. he has set in motion reform as far as rights that the citizens of the country had gained. and possibly also granted more power to the establishment, himself included as a probable second term president.

I guess we just see it differently. You could be right for all anyone of us really know. But this pattern of demonization and persecution against him from the establishment at the very moment he started running has never ceased, and it's too big of a coincidence for me to ignore. It leads me to believe that the corrupt people who pull strings behind the curtains who we don't see are terrified that he is going to strip away their stranglehold over the free world. And I think he's starting to chip away at it. Just my take. I could be wrong.

you could read it that way. that is certainly what he spouts out and a large part of the media and political establishment also parrot that message.

You're saying the political establishment parrots the message that Trump is going to stop the political establishment?

you seem to believe that the establishment is some kind of organization like james bond's spectre. i don't see it so simplistically. it's more of different factions with their own intentions rather than a top down kind of system where a blofeld figure or set of figures calls all the shots.

Nice observation. I've thought of them like Spectre actually, but yeah, there's no Blofeld type figure, just a bunch of different tiny factions that sporadically make up the whole of the establishment.