I will.Lazerus wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:21 pmYou should look into it. I’m curious to hear your opinion about it.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:20 pmI haven't dug enough into that to have an opinion yet. But I will take a look at some point for sure.Lazerus wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:19 pm Jason,
Project 2025 is not a good blueprint to follow yet Trump and his crew seem to be following it somewhat from what I’ve seen. (I could be wrong) but, All I see is an attempt to move the country towards authoritarianism and that’s never worked well throughout history.
Anyway that’s my two cents.
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
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i'll bite. who is (or are) the public face of that establishment. what are their goals as you see them to be? and what has donald trump done or set in motion to disrupt those goals or dismantle that establishment?Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:41 pmNice observation. I've thought of them like Spectre actually, but yeah, there's no Blofeld type figure, just a bunch of different tiny factions that sporadically make up the whole of the establishment.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:31 pmyou seem to believe that the establishment is some kind of organization like james bond's spectre. i don't see it so simplistically. it's more of different factions with their own intentions rather than a top down kind of system where a blofeld figure or set of figures calls all the shots.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:25 pmYou're saying the political establishment parrots the message that Trump is going to stop the political establishment?zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:22 pmyou could read it that way. that is certainly what he spouts out and a large part of the media and political establishment also parrot that message.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:17 pmI guess we just see it differently. You could be right for all anyone of us really know. But this pattern of demonization and persecution against him from the establishment at the very moment he started running has never ceased, and it's too big of a coincidence for me to ignore. It leads me to believe that the corrupt people who pull strings behind the curtains who we don't see are terrified that he is going to strip away their stranglehold over the free world. And I think he's starting to chip away at it. Just my take. I could be wrong.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:06 pmhe hasn't indicated that in his actions, as it relates to the establishment and their power or influence. he has set in motion reform as far as rights that the citizens of the country had gained. and possibly also granted more power to the establishment, himself included as a probable second term president.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:58 pm He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.
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Coincidences are piling up now. What are the odds.
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There is no public face of the establishment. The corporate media receives money and are controlled by the establishment to say whatever they want and push narratives.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:46 pmi'll bite. who is (or are) the public face of that establishment. what are their goals as you see them to be? and what has donald trump done or set in motion to disrupt those goals or dismantle that establishment?Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:41 pmNice observation. I've thought of them like Spectre actually, but yeah, there's no Blofeld type figure, just a bunch of different tiny factions that sporadically make up the whole of the establishment.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:31 pmyou seem to believe that the establishment is some kind of organization like james bond's spectre. i don't see it so simplistically. it's more of different factions with their own intentions rather than a top down kind of system where a blofeld figure or set of figures calls all the shots.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:25 pmYou're saying the political establishment parrots the message that Trump is going to stop the political establishment?zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:22 pmyou could read it that way. that is certainly what he spouts out and a large part of the media and political establishment also parrot that message.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:17 pmI guess we just see it differently. You could be right for all anyone of us really know. But this pattern of demonization and persecution against him from the establishment at the very moment he started running has never ceased, and it's too big of a coincidence for me to ignore. It leads me to believe that the corrupt people who pull strings behind the curtains who we don't see are terrified that he is going to strip away their stranglehold over the free world. And I think he's starting to chip away at it. Just my take. I could be wrong.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:06 pmhe hasn't indicated that in his actions, as it relates to the establishment and their power or influence. he has set in motion reform as far as rights that the citizens of the country had gained. and possibly also granted more power to the establishment, himself included as a probable second term president.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:58 pm He's a reformer, he's not going to "drain the swamp" by himself. He's starting a movement against the corruption within the government and if enough people follow suit over the coming decades then it will lead to a better outcome for our country. Trump is simply the turning point.
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so there is no way to know who they are or what they want, you can use this to justify anything or demonize anyone. you can vote any way you want and hand wave away the opposition because the establishment can be anyone or anything you want it to be. i hope your vote is more based on some kind of evidence than that. but fair enough.
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You can't take everything at face value no matter what side you're on. Do your best to rid yourself of bias when taking in information, pull from an aggregate and most importantly, use your best judgment. Too many dots connected for me to believe the establishment has good intentions for the general public.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:10 pmso there is no way to know who they are or what they want, you can use this to justify anything or demonize anyone. you can vote any way you want and hand wave away the opposition because the establishment can be anyone or anything you want it to be. i hope your vote is more based on some kind of evidence than that. but fair enough.
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i didn't say take everything at face value. i didn't say to nod along to what a media source tells you. i didn't say just blindly support the political elites. i never said any of that.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:39 pmYou can't take everything at face value no matter what side you're on. Do your best to rid yourself of bias when taking in information, pull from an aggregate and most importantly, use your best judgment. Too many dots connected for me to believe the establishment has good intentions for the general public.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:10 pmso there is no way to know who they are or what they want, you can use this to justify anything or demonize anyone. you can vote any way you want and hand wave away the opposition because the establishment can be anyone or anything you want it to be. i hope your vote is more based on some kind of evidence than that. but fair enough.
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More than likely was just some loner who was bullied/ignored in school and was super into guns which were easily accessible in his home.
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to be clear, joe biden is the key master and there is no donald, only zuul. are you a god?
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I never said you did. Just laying out a good blueprint to go about retaining political information. Had nothing to do with anyone in particular. More so how I approach it.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:48 pmi didn't say take everything at face value. i didn't say to nod along to what a media source tells you. i didn't say just blindly support the political elites. i never said any of that.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:39 pmYou can't take everything at face value no matter what side you're on. Do your best to rid yourself of bias when taking in information, pull from an aggregate and most importantly, use your best judgment. Too many dots connected for me to believe the establishment has good intentions for the general public.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:10 pmso there is no way to know who they are or what they want, you can use this to justify anything or demonize anyone. you can vote any way you want and hand wave away the opposition because the establishment can be anyone or anything you want it to be. i hope your vote is more based on some kind of evidence than that. but fair enough.
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fair enough. what you want out of donald trump as you presented it here, feels pretty nebulous.. so i can only go by the way he, and those he surrounds himself with, present his intentions and his agenda. and it doesn't look any better than what joe biden seems to be doing.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:06 pmI never said you did. Just laying out a good blueprint to go about retaining political information. Had nothing to do with anyone in particular. More so how I approach it.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:48 pmi didn't say take everything at face value. i didn't say to nod along to what a media source tells you. i didn't say just blindly support the political elites. i never said any of that.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:39 pmYou can't take everything at face value no matter what side you're on. Do your best to rid yourself of bias when taking in information, pull from an aggregate and most importantly, use your best judgment. Too many dots connected for me to believe the establishment has good intentions for the general public.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:10 pmso there is no way to know who they are or what they want, you can use this to justify anything or demonize anyone. you can vote any way you want and hand wave away the opposition because the establishment can be anyone or anything you want it to be. i hope your vote is more based on some kind of evidence than that. but fair enough.
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So they filmed a commercial at a local high school years ago. They knew back then this kid was going to be an MK-Ultra patsy and wanted to show everyone the clues? What is even the implication on this one
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
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Blackrock is one of the most evil and corrupt companies, Larry Fink is a scumbag and the kid who shot at the anti-establishment candidate was featured in a commercial of one of the establishment's most prominent companies?Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:16 pmSo they filmed a commercial at a local high school years ago. They knew back then this kid was going to be an MK-Ultra patsy and wanted to show everyone the clues? What is even the implication on this one
I haven't made up my mind on where the motif and involvement lies, but I'm not naive enough to ignore a huge coincidence.
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The man who died got his wife and daughter to the ground and shielded them from the bullet that killed him. The daughter gave a devastating statement that pulls at the heart strings.
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it sucks that he had to end up in that position, but good for him doing the best he could in the situation. too bad, his death will be used for political gain by the person he was there to see.
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A lot of companies are evil and corrupt. He wasn’t featured, he popped up a couple times as a random kid in a commercial filmed at a high school of 1,300+ students. The deep state did not film a commercial so they could show off an MK-Ultra patsy they were going to deploy two years later at an event that almost certainly wasn’t scheduled at the time. This is not worthy of your time.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:21 pmBlackrock is one of the most evil and corrupt companies, Larry Fink is a scumbag and the kid who shot at the anti-establishment candidate was featured in a commercial of one of the establishment's most prominent companies?Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:16 pmSo they filmed a commercial at a local high school years ago. They knew back then this kid was going to be an MK-Ultra patsy and wanted to show everyone the clues? What is even the implication on this one
I haven't made up my mind on where the motif and involvement lies, but I'm not naive enough to ignore a huge coincidence.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
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indeed, but no more yuck that claiming in several posts that it was an inside job.
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Definitely not. It would be stupid of them to have him featured in a commercial if they already had a plan to use him as an assassin. As I said, I haven't made up my mind, but it's silly to ignore the coincidences when people speculated the establishment wanted him dead. The same pattern throughout history occurs. Assassinations and assassination attempts tend to be against prominent and popular figures who are a threat to the establishment.Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:28 pmA lot of companies are evil and corrupt. He wasn’t featured, he popped up a couple times as a random kid in a commercial filmed at a high school of 1,300+ students. The deep state did not film a commercial so they could show off an MK-Ultra patsy they were going to deploy two years later at an event that almost certainly wasn’t scheduled at the time. This is not worthy of your time.Jason wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:21 pmBlackrock is one of the most evil and corrupt companies, Larry Fink is a scumbag and the kid who shot at the anti-establishment candidate was featured in a commercial of one of the establishment's most prominent companies?Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:16 pmSo they filmed a commercial at a local high school years ago. They knew back then this kid was going to be an MK-Ultra patsy and wanted to show everyone the clues? What is even the implication on this one
I haven't made up my mind on where the motif and involvement lies, but I'm not naive enough to ignore a huge coincidence.
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Could have been. You never know.zombie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:32 pmindeed, but no more yuck that claiming in several posts that it was an inside job.