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zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
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Re: July 17th 2024

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Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:40 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
if you can show that they are targeting other physical media beyond their own, i'll concede. otherwise it's just the market. maybe they're too greedy but that's how capitalism works.
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Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:40 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
I'm one of those people. I love my horror film collection and will always add more physical media to it. I don't care much for streaming and only have a select few services. I prefer to watch the movies I truly love in my media room on blu ray/4K. Guess I'm just old school :thumb:
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Lazerus wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:18 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:40 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
I'm one of those people. I love my horror film collection and will always add more physical media to it. I don't care much for streaming and only have a select few services. I prefer to watch the movies I truly love in my media room on blu ray/4K. Guess I'm just old school :thumb:
as am i, physical media is awesome and i'll hold onto it as long as i can. i've just tired of everything being a conspiracy is all. and the people crying about conspiracy the loudest (not jason, nor another hmf member) just wanting to be the one doing what they're crying about.
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zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:52 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:40 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
if you can show that they are targeting other physical media beyond their own, i'll concede. otherwise it's just the market. maybe they're too greedy but that's how capitalism works.
You mean movies like Barbarian?

They target movies, get the rights to them and pick and choose which ones get a physical release, ignoring those who want to own it.
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zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:25 pm
Lazerus wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:18 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:40 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
I'm one of those people. I love my horror film collection and will always add more physical media to it. I don't care much for streaming and only have a select few services. I prefer to watch the movies I truly love in my media room on blu ray/4K. Guess I'm just old school :thumb:
as am i, physical media is awesome and i'll hold onto it as long as i can. i've just tired of everything being a conspiracy is all. and the people crying about conspiracy the loudest (not jason, nor another hmf member) just wanting to be the one doing what they're crying about.
There's something special IMO about owning a physical copy of a film, especially if it's a limited edition or whatever. The bulk of my horror collection is films from the 80's and early 90's stuff. Some of them came with poster's and shit from Shout Factory which was nice.
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Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:32 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:52 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:40 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
if you can show that they are targeting other physical media beyond their own, i'll concede. otherwise it's just the market. maybe they're too greedy but that's how capitalism works.
You mean movies like Barbarian?

They target movies, get the rights to them and pick and choose which ones get a physical release, ignoring those who want to own it.
i thought barbarians was made under disney? did they acquire that when they bought fox? fox didn't have to sell to dinsey. nor did disney purchase fox to kill blu-ray or dvd.
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Lazerus wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:18 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:40 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
I'm one of those people. I love my horror film collection and will always add more physical media to it. I don't care much for streaming and only have a select few services. I prefer to watch the movies I truly love in my media room on blu ray/4K. Guess I'm just old school :thumb:
It's becoming the only way to go. I have a big enough issue with streaming, but Disney has also began editing the original cut of films to remove content that they deem offensive. So you're not seeing movies the way they're intended.
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Lazerus wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:38 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:25 pm
Lazerus wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:18 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:40 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:13 pmgreed is the north star of capitalism. america is caplitalist. want to change that, vote independent! *takes jigsaw mask off* :P
You change the flow of capitalism with your wallet, otherwise you don't have freedom. Unfortunately, the masses would rather stream so I am shit out of luck no matter what happens. :P

At least I got that bitchin cool Late Night with the Devil VHS/bluray set coming in two months. 8-)

and the wallets of the maases changed the flow of capitalism away from blu-ray and dvd. this is not a dinsey conspiracy. this is the way the market is flowing. we agree.
Well, not necessarily. There are plenty of people who will forever be loyal to physical media, so there will always be a market for it. Disney is the first company that is openly too greedy to allow anyone else to make a profit on the physical aspect and is pushing toward the goal of all physical media eventually being eliminated.
I'm one of those people. I love my horror film collection and will always add more physical media to it. I don't care much for streaming and only have a select few services. I prefer to watch the movies I truly love in my media room on blu ray/4K. Guess I'm just old school :thumb:

as am i, physical media is awesome and i'll hold onto it as long as i can. i've just tired of everything being a conspiracy is all. and the people crying about conspiracy the loudest (not jason, nor another hmf member) just wanting to be the one doing what they're crying about.
There's something special IMO about owning a physical copy of a film, especially if it's a limited edition or whatever. The bulk of my horror collection is films from the 80's and early 90's stuff. Some of them came with poster's and shit from Shout Factory which was nice.
agreed. i've got a pretty decent collection of films too. physical media should never die. but i'm not going to shun digital or streaming out of some kind of stubborn loyalty.
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Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pmbut Disney has also began editing the original cut of films to remove content that they deem offensive. So you're not seeing movies the way they're intended.

that is a separate issue, and also had been done at the height of dvd and blu-ray's popularity.
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zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:58 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pmbut Disney has also began editing the original cut of films to remove content that they deem offensive. So you're not seeing movies the way they're intended.

that is a separate issue, and also had been done at the height of dvd and blu-ray's popularity.
The idea is that the film is preserved in the movie you buy and you're not subjected to whatever weird edits the people with the rights decide to make to the film. I always prefer watching it the way the director intended. And those are usually the edits that occur in the bluray/dvd era. Dumb and Dumber might be my favorite comedy and I haven't bought the bluray because they only released the unrated edition, which is usually the best way to watch a movie but the scenes that are added just didn't really work for the movie. Theatrical is the only way to watch Dumb and Dumber.

Did we talk about Possession? The 1981 movie? What did you think of that? I can't remember if we talked about it or not.
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Possession would actually prove the point. They could roll out a nice releasese of that for only 5 people to buy it.
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Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:15 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:58 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pmbut Disney has also began editing the original cut of films to remove content that they deem offensive. So you're not seeing movies the way they're intended.

that is a separate issue, and also had been done at the height of dvd and blu-ray's popularity.
The idea is that the film is preserved in the movie you buy and you're not subjected to whatever weird edits the people with the rights decide to make to the film. I always prefer watching it the way the director intended. And those are usually the edits that occur in the bluray/dvd era. Dumb and Dumber might be my favorite comedy and I haven't bought the bluray because they only released the unrated edition, which is usually the best way to watch a movie but the scenes that are added just didn't really work for the movie. Theatrical is the only way to watch Dumb and Dumber.

Did we talk about Possession? The 1981 movie? What did you think of that? I can't remember if we talked about it or not.
we must have talked about possession here at some point? it has become one of my favorite 80s horror flicks. top 20-25 of the decade easily. i probably should dig into the features, but i haven't yet.

as for director's cut being worse than theatrical, midsommar falls into that category as well. i can't think of many more that do off the top of my head though.
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Reign in Blood wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:34 pm Possession would actually prove the point. They could roll out a nice releasese of that for only 5 people to buy it.

possession was on shudder for a bit. it may still be?
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I have really stepped up my horror physical media collecting. I think it's some sort of midlife crisis thing lol
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Reign in Blood wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:34 pm Possession would actually prove the point. They could roll out a nice releasese of that for only 5 people to buy it.
Well, believe it or not, Zomb and I are two of the five. 8-)
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zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:37 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:15 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:58 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pmbut Disney has also began editing the original cut of films to remove content that they deem offensive. So you're not seeing movies the way they're intended.

that is a separate issue, and also had been done at the height of dvd and blu-ray's popularity.
The idea is that the film is preserved in the movie you buy and you're not subjected to whatever weird edits the people with the rights decide to make to the film. I always prefer watching it the way the director intended. And those are usually the edits that occur in the bluray/dvd era. Dumb and Dumber might be my favorite comedy and I haven't bought the bluray because they only released the unrated edition, which is usually the best way to watch a movie but the scenes that are added just didn't really work for the movie. Theatrical is the only way to watch Dumb and Dumber.

Did we talk about Possession? The 1981 movie? What did you think of that? I can't remember if we talked about it or not.
we must have talked about possession here at some point? it has become one of my favorite 80s horror flicks. top 20-25 of the decade easily. i probably should dig into the features, but i haven't yet.

as for director's cut being worse than theatrical, midsommar falls into that category as well. i can't think of many more that do off the top of my head though.
Top 20 80s horror is in phenomenal company. I had no idea you dug it that much. Very cool.

I watched it a couple times and I'm in need of a rewatch it. But I also dug the hell out of it.
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Tiggnutz wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:00 pm I have really stepped up my horror physical media collecting. I think it's some sort of midlife crisis thing lol
I guess I've been in a midlife crisis since I was like 15. Lmao.

I started out buying VHS and right as I began building a nice collection, DVD took over and I was devastated for a while but I came around to DVDs pretty quickly.

I have somewhere around 3-4,000 titles on bluray/DVD and lots of TV shows. Most of my physical media buying is upgrading a lot of my older DVDs to more upscale and nicer bluray sets.
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Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:45 pm
Tiggnutz wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:00 pm I have really stepped up my horror physical media collecting. I think it's some sort of midlife crisis thing lol
I guess I've been in a midlife crisis since I was like 15. Lmao.

I started out buying VHS and right as I began building a nice collection, DVD took over and I was devastated for a while but I came around to DVDs pretty quickly.

I have somewhere around 3-4,000 titles on bluray/DVD and lots of TV shows. Most of my physical media buying is upgrading a lot of my older DVDs to more upscale and nicer bluray sets.
Where do you keep that many?
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Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:42 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:37 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:15 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:58 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:52 pmbut Disney has also began editing the original cut of films to remove content that they deem offensive. So you're not seeing movies the way they're intended.

that is a separate issue, and also had been done at the height of dvd and blu-ray's popularity.
The idea is that the film is preserved in the movie you buy and you're not subjected to whatever weird edits the people with the rights decide to make to the film. I always prefer watching it the way the director intended. And those are usually the edits that occur in the bluray/dvd era. Dumb and Dumber might be my favorite comedy and I haven't bought the bluray because they only released the unrated edition, which is usually the best way to watch a movie but the scenes that are added just didn't really work for the movie. Theatrical is the only way to watch Dumb and Dumber.

Did we talk about Possession? The 1981 movie? What did you think of that? I can't remember if we talked about it or not.
we must have talked about possession here at some point? it has become one of my favorite 80s horror flicks. top 20-25 of the decade easily. i probably should dig into the features, but i haven't yet.

as for director's cut being worse than theatrical, midsommar falls into that category as well. i can't think of many more that do off the top of my head though.
Top 20 80s horror is in phenomenal company. I had no idea you dug it that much. Very cool.

I watched it a couple times and I'm in need of a rewatch it. But I also dug the hell out of it.
mind you, i do have the worst taste in movies around here... so our favorites may vary even in the 1980s. :P but glad you enjoy the flick too
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