Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

[zombie]

edinanci silva was allowed to compete in judo as a woman in the olympics, in previous years. i haven't been able to find much controversy regarding her. politics sucks balls.

[Jason]

edinanci silva was allowed to compete in judo as a woman in the olympics, in previous years. i haven't been able to find much controversy regarding her. politics sucks balls.

I've never heard of her, but Judo is not Boxing. Assuming Silva was born with XY chromosomes, that would be a massive advantage, yes, but Boxing is an already incredibly dangerous sport. Judo is grappling and throwing your weight around. Boxing is using your muscles to throw bones at people's heads. Safety is of a bigger concern than inclusion. Let it be noted that the IBA never barred Imane from fighting, only from fighting females.

[zombie]

edinanci silva was allowed to compete in judo as a woman in the olympics, in previous years. i haven't been able to find much controversy regarding her. politics sucks balls.

I've never heard of her, but Judo is not Boxing. Assuming Silva was born with XY chromosomes, that would be a massive advantage, yes, but Boxing is an already incredibly dangerous sport. Judo is grappling and throwing your weight around. Boxing is using your muscles to throw bones at people's heads. Safety is of a bigger concern than inclusion. Let it be noted that the IBA never barred Imane from fighting, only from fighting females.

i never said inclusion. i'm for excluding or including equally. if a trans man or an xx man is protected from other men the way you want other women to be protected from a transwoman or an xy woman, i have no issues whatsoever.

[Jason]

edinanci silva was allowed to compete in judo as a woman in the olympics, in previous years. i haven't been able to find much controversy regarding her. politics sucks balls.

I've never heard of her, but Judo is not Boxing. Assuming Silva was born with XY chromosomes, that would be a massive advantage, yes, but Boxing is an already incredibly dangerous sport. Judo is grappling and throwing your weight around. Boxing is using your muscles to throw bones at people's heads. Safety is of a bigger concern than inclusion. Let it be noted that the IBA never barred Imane from fighting, only from fighting females.

i never said inclusion. i'm for excluding or including equally. if a trans man or an xx man is protected from other men the way you want other women to be protected from a transwoman or an xy woman, i have no issues whatsoever.

There's a reason why you won't see this happening the other way around. XY chromosomes means you are going to have an absolutely massive physiological advantage over someone with XX chromosomes. It's literal male vs female.

[zombie]

edinanci silva was allowed to compete in judo as a woman in the olympics, in previous years. i haven't been able to find much controversy regarding her. politics sucks balls.

I've never heard of her, but Judo is not Boxing. Assuming Silva was born with XY chromosomes, that would be a massive advantage, yes, but Boxing is an already incredibly dangerous sport. Judo is grappling and throwing your weight around. Boxing is using your muscles to throw bones at people's heads. Safety is of a bigger concern than inclusion. Let it be noted that the IBA never barred Imane from fighting, only from fighting females.

i never said inclusion. i'm for excluding or including equally. if a trans man or an xx man is protected from other men the way you want other women to be protected from a transwoman or an xy woman, i have no issues whatsoever.

There's a reason why you won't see this happening the other way around. XY chromosomes means you are going to have an absolutely massive physiological advantage over someone with XX chromosomes. It's literal male vs female.

okay. you aren't reading what i'm writing for whatever reason. i can take the hint.

[Jason]

edinanci silva was allowed to compete in judo as a woman in the olympics, in previous years. i haven't been able to find much controversy regarding her. politics sucks balls.

I've never heard of her, but Judo is not Boxing. Assuming Silva was born with XY chromosomes, that would be a massive advantage, yes, but Boxing is an already incredibly dangerous sport. Judo is grappling and throwing your weight around. Boxing is using your muscles to throw bones at people's heads. Safety is of a bigger concern than inclusion. Let it be noted that the IBA never barred Imane from fighting, only from fighting females.

i never said inclusion. i'm for excluding or including equally. if a trans man or an xx man is protected from other men the way you want other women to be protected from a transwoman or an xy woman, i have no issues whatsoever.

There's a reason why you won't see this happening the other way around. XY chromosomes means you are going to have an absolutely massive physiological advantage over someone with XX chromosomes. It's literal male vs female.

okay. you aren't reading what i'm writing for whatever reason. i can take the hint.

I'm not sure what you mean? You brought up an XX person being protected, and I told you that there is a reason why you don't see this happening the other way around.

[zombie]

edinanci silva was allowed to compete in judo as a woman in the olympics, in previous years. i haven't been able to find much controversy regarding her. politics sucks balls.

I've never heard of her, but Judo is not Boxing. Assuming Silva was born with XY chromosomes, that would be a massive advantage, yes, but Boxing is an already incredibly dangerous sport. Judo is grappling and throwing your weight around. Boxing is using your muscles to throw bones at people's heads. Safety is of a bigger concern than inclusion. Let it be noted that the IBA never barred Imane from fighting, only from fighting females.

i never said inclusion. i'm for excluding or including equally. if a trans man or an xx man is protected from other men the way you want other women to be protected from a transwoman or an xy woman, i have no issues whatsoever.

There's a reason why you won't see this happening the other way around. XY chromosomes means you are going to have an absolutely massive physiological advantage over someone with XX chromosomes. It's literal male vs female.

okay. you aren't reading what i'm writing for whatever reason. i can take the hint.

I'm not sure what you mean? You brought up an XX person being protected, and I told you that there is a reason why you don't see this happening the other way around.

i feel like the reverse could absolutely happen where a "woman" would go to fight in the men's league and thus they would be in need of protecting by your standard, no?

[Jason]

edinanci silva was allowed to compete in judo as a woman in the olympics, in previous years. i haven't been able to find much controversy regarding her. politics sucks balls.

I've never heard of her, but Judo is not Boxing. Assuming Silva was born with XY chromosomes, that would be a massive advantage, yes, but Boxing is an already incredibly dangerous sport. Judo is grappling and throwing your weight around. Boxing is using your muscles to throw bones at people's heads. Safety is of a bigger concern than inclusion. Let it be noted that the IBA never barred Imane from fighting, only from fighting females.

i never said inclusion. i'm for excluding or including equally. if a trans man or an xx man is protected from other men the way you want other women to be protected from a transwoman or an xy woman, i have no issues whatsoever.

There's a reason why you won't see this happening the other way around. XY chromosomes means you are going to have an absolutely massive physiological advantage over someone with XX chromosomes. It's literal male vs female.

okay. you aren't reading what i'm writing for whatever reason. i can take the hint.

I'm not sure what you mean? You brought up an XX person being protected, and I told you that there is a reason why you don't see this happening the other way around.

i feel like the reverse could absolutely happen where a "woman" would go to fight in the men's league and thus they would be in need of protecting by your standard, no?

No. Imagine being a female and dedicating your life to trying to qualify in Olympic boxing and you actually do it. Then you find out you have to fight against someone with an unbelievably rare biological phenomenon that puts them at an immeasurably higher advantage than you that training simply cannot make up. You're essentially forced to fight or forfeit and you go in and get hit by a freight train. This is not the same thing as someone with XX chromosomes trying to compete against XY. Before you even put the gloves on to train on your first day, you know you're at a massive disadvantage. These women are expecting to fight against other naturally born women with roughly the same bone density and musculature. It's horrific what they're doing to female athletes.

And then you've got people mocking her going "teehee. Dumb lady should learn how to take a punch". Wtf man

[zombie]

No. Imagine being a female and dedicating your life to trying to qualify in Olympic boxing and you actually do it. Then you find out you have to fight against someone with an unbelievably rare biological phenomenon that puts them at an immeasurably higher advantage than you that training simply cannot make up. You're essentially forced to fight or forfeit and you go in and get hit by a freight train. This is not the same thing as someone with XX chromosomes trying to compete against XY. Before you even put the gloves on to train on your first day, you know you're at a massive disadvantage. These women are expecting to fight against other naturally born women with roughly the same bone density and musculature. It's horrific what they're doing to female athletes.

fair enough, i guess politics is too big for us to discuss this impartially.

[zombie]

And then you've got people mocking her going "teehee. Dumb lady should learn how to take a punch". Wtf man

for the record, i never once said or suggested that

[Jason]

No. Imagine being a female and dedicating your life to trying to qualify in Olympic boxing and you actually do it. Then you find out you have to fight against someone with an unbelievably rare biological phenomenon that puts them at an immeasurably higher advantage than you that training simply cannot make up. You're essentially forced to fight or forfeit and you go in and get hit by a freight train. This is not the same thing as someone with XX chromosomes trying to compete against XY. Before you even put the gloves on to train on your first day, you know you're at a massive disadvantage. These women are expecting to fight against other naturally born women with roughly the same bone density and musculature. It's horrific what they're doing to female athletes.

fair enough, i guess politics is too big for us to discuss this impartially.

If that's how you want to see it. I just gave my opinion.

[Jason]

And then you've got people mocking her going "teehee. Dumb lady should learn how to take a punch". Wtf man

for the record, i never once said or suggested that

Well obviously. You're zomb. It's all over social media though. The mentality is as hilarious as it is depressing.

One side shares that a man beats up a woman and does no research, the other side mocks them for not doing research while also not doing research. Then everyone just completely shits on everyone.

[zombie]

No. Imagine being a female and dedicating your life to trying to qualify in Olympic boxing and you actually do it. Then you find out you have to fight against someone with an unbelievably rare biological phenomenon that puts them at an immeasurably higher advantage than you that training simply cannot make up. You're essentially forced to fight or forfeit and you go in and get hit by a freight train. This is not the same thing as someone with XX chromosomes trying to compete against XY. Before you even put the gloves on to train on your first day, you know you're at a massive disadvantage. These women are expecting to fight against other naturally born women with roughly the same bone density and musculature. It's horrific what they're doing to female athletes.

fair enough, i guess politics is too big for us to discuss this impartially.

If that's how you want to see it. I just gave my opinion.

i said politics, not your politics. talk to you later.

[Jason]

I must have misunderstood.

[Slaughterhouserock]

HRT is not going to prevent a biological male from having an enormous advantage unless you're talking about giving it to children, in which anyone who even attempts to do so should be thrown in prison.

HRT is for raising test to normal levels, typically for older men, but also for people with low-test from other issues. It shouldn't be confused with other PED's that are used to increase test beyond normal levels. It should also be noted that taking HRT is a lifelong thing as your body will stop producing test naturally if you take it long enough.

[Headhunter]

The unstoppable Imane Khelif has 9 losses to other biological women as a boxer and competed in the previous Olympics without anyone caring. But now everyone is a raging mouth breather and some whiny Italian had to be overdramatic (big surprise there) after losing in embarrassing fashion.

Dumbest story of all time. I hope she wins gold

[Headhunter]

I like how there is also zero evidence that she has XY chromosomes but now everyone who said she was trans has moved on to that

[zombie]

angela carini is not a crybaby who can't take a punch. nor is she a helpless victim who was tricked into fighting a man or an xy woman, whatever the narrative. she's a competitor who happened to lose against another competitor. if imane khelif had lost or loses in the future, the narrative is gonna be that a woman knocked that "man" out. the right is going to cheer and gloat.

i hope she wins the gold too.

[Jason]

The unstoppable Imane Khelif has 9 losses to other biological women as a boxer and competed in the previous Olympics without anyone caring. But now everyone is a raging mouth breather and some whiny Italian had to be overdramatic (big surprise there) after losing in embarrassing fashion.

I like how there is also zero evidence that she has XY chromosomes but now everyone who said she was trans has moved on to that

I didn't know who imane was until two or three days ago either. Nobody would unless they follow female boxing closely and nobody really does. But even so, the IBA did their test in 2023 to determine Imane has an unfair advantage over competitors in the women's division and barred competition against females, but did not do so against male competition.

There is overwhelming and compelling evidence but people choose to ignore it and would rather believe what fits their personal purview. As far as winning gold, this person is very likely going to win it if there exists male bone density and musculature inside that body.

I certainly have sympathy for both situations. A woman having to compete against a male body that happens to have female genitalia, and I simply can't imagine living the life that Imane has lived. It just simply isn't fair for that person to compete against women and to hardyhar at the woman who quit given the situation is kinda fucked up imo.

[zombie]

The unstoppable Imane Khelif has 9 losses to other biological women as a boxer and competed in the previous Olympics without anyone caring. But now everyone is a raging mouth breather and some whiny Italian had to be overdramatic (big surprise there) after losing in embarrassing fashion.

I like how there is also zero evidence that she has XY chromosomes but now everyone who said she was trans has moved on to that

I didn't know who imane was until two or three days ago either. Nobody would unless they follow female boxing closely and nobody really does. But even so, the IBA did their test in 2023 to determine Imane has an unfair advantage over competitors in the women's division and barred competition against females, but did not do so against male competition.

There is overwhelming and compelling evidence but people choose to ignore it and would rather believe what fits their personal purview. As far as winning gold, this person is very likely going to win it if there exists male bone density and musculature inside that body.

I certainly have sympathy for both situations. A woman having to compete against a male body that happens to have female genitalia, and I simply can't imagine living the life that Imane has lived. It just simply isn't fair for that person to compete against women and to hardyhar at the woman who quit given the situation is kinda fucked up imo.

if she wins. she fought hard to win and deserves the gold. if someone bests her, as has happened in the past, then they deserve to win and take the gold. i hope whatever the case that all involved can continue to have a career in boxing and don't fall into the temptation to push political agendas in the future.