JFK Assassination Discussion

[Reign in Blood]

I got the limited Oswald steelbook edition. End of the movie is a fucking doozy!

[Headhunter]

Nic Cage already told us at the end of the Rock, bruv.

He did not!!!

[Jason]

JFK and the Unspeakable arrived yesterday. Went straight to the night stand of books that I've either read recently, need to read/read again or will read soon.

[Reign in Blood]

Would it kill you to have some Dr. Seuss, Berenstain Bears, maybe some Where's Waldo on that shelf?

[Jason]

Would it kill you to have some Dr. Seuss, Berenstain Bears, maybe some Where's Waldo on that shelf?

Will this suffice?

[Reign in Blood]

That is fuckin dope. I think I cashed out around 50, I know I got Say Cheese and Die Again.

[Jason]

That is fuckin dope. I think I cashed out around 50, I know I got Say Cheese and Die Again.

10 or 15 years ago I had between 45 and 50 I think. Got nostalgic and bought the rest on ebay. Have had the completed set ever since. Got too old to care about the other Goosebumps runs and only ever cared for the original 62. I actually just bought that little 3D printed thing a couple weeks ago. Lol

[Reign in Blood]

Now I'm gonna have to get dusty and see where I left off.

[Jason]

Now I'm gonna have to get dusty and see where I left off.

[Jason]

This is some groundbreaking shit here. I'm gonna try to paint this picture as clearly as I can without making it a giant novel-sized post, so bear with me.






That was leaked audio of a conversation between Billy Sol Estes and Cliff Carter. Really surreal to hear this come out of Cliff Carter's mouth after all these years of unconfirmed suspicion. But Cliff was always LBJ's right hand guy, dude knows every shady thing LBJ ever did and helped him along the way, and he flat out says Mac Wallace's name and says he is the guy LBJ put in place as one of the men who assassinated Kennedy. These conversations were never confirmed and were only alleged to have happened based on Billy Sol's testimony in 1984 in front of a grand jury in exchange for a lighter sentence. Billy Sol came to the jury and listed 8 names out of 17, detailed their deaths, how they died and how LBJ was the man who orchestrated them all. If the jury accepted and pursued Billy Sol's allegations, they would have received information on the remaining LBJ murders and Billy Sol would have got off. They chose not to accept his deal, but believed the evidence he provided against LBJ.

Billy Sol was involved in illegal agriculture dealings with Lyndon Johnson, beginning in the late 50s. A guy in agriculture adjustment named Henry Marshall (who you hear mentioned in the video above) was assigned to investigate something strange in cotton allotment funds involving Billy Sol in 1960. Problem is, Johnson was involved and if they discovered his involvement, he would be off the VP ticket and on his way to prison. Cliff, Billy and Lyndon met many times and in one of the meetings they got together and made some phone calls to higher ups in the agriculture department to offer Henry Marshall a promotion, but he refused, believing he was being bribed. The next meeting between Cliff, Billy and Lyndon was how they were gonna murder him, and Mac Wallace was basically the hit man in LBJ's circle.

This leaked audio basically opened pandoras box regarding LBJ's involvement and the Malcolm Wallace fingerprint found in the snipers nest on the 6th floor of the Book Depository. Much of Lyndon and Mac being involved with each other was only highly speculated and largely relied on the testimony of Billy Sol and the allegations he provided. All of it was speculation until the release of this audio which if authentic, proves that Billy Sol was telling the truth.

There is no one book to read to get the full scoop on the JFK Assassination. There certainly exists a combination of books out there that collectively piece everything together. With this new evidence, Blood Money & Power by Barr McClellan has been lifted from a largely "alleged" work to an "at least largely true" work and is now an essential piece of information regarding the assassination.

[Lazerus]

Would it kill you to have some Dr. Seuss, Berenstain Bears, maybe some Where's Waldo on that shelf?

Will this suffice?

Now this is awesome!

[Headhunter]

That tape needs to be independently authenticated as real and not an AI deepfake or I am going to be skeptical.

[Jason]

That tape needs to be independently authenticated as real and not an AI deepfake or I am going to be skeptical.

First thing that crossed my mind, but if that's an AI deep fake, then it is about 1,000x better than any deep fake I ever heard.

[Jason]

Alright. I did some digging. The person who released the audio is named Shane Stevens, the apparent grandson of Billy Sol Estes. Billy Sol died in 2013, entrusted the tapes to a friend who then entrusted the tapes to the grandson in 2016. So Shane Stevens is the source of the material, but I suspect nobody will like who he came to for the release of the audio.

The clip I posted earlier is only a small snippet of the full tape. You can hear the tape in full toward the end of the podcast below. With maybe 20 minutes left. It really seems to check out.

[Tiggnutz]

So what did Trump just order to be released?

[Headhunter]

So what did Trump just order to be released?

In reality, nothing. We shall see. The CIA can keep dragging this out.

[Jason]

So what did Trump just order to be released?

Looks like everything. And at the end of the video he told the guy to give the pen that he used to sign the declassification over to RFK Jr. Very cool.

I'm glad I held out on applying for jobs. I'm gonna be in a pretty deep rabbit hole once this hits the public.

[Reign in Blood]

Lol, gotta love the difference in responses.

[Jason]

Lol, gotta love the difference in responses.

[Headhunter]

Let’s be clear, the executive order does not compel Trump officials to go grab documents from the CIA. Not much has changed. It is up to them to approve the next steps, no different than the last two administrations.