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zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:32 pm
Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:13 pm The Myers sequels totally water down everything in a way other slasher franchise sequels don’t. I think Season of the Witch is the only sequel whose existence I can justify, because the anthology series angle is cool as fuck. The others are unnecessary.

I view the first Halloween as completely independent of everything that comes later. Even with something like TCM 2 that totally subverts TCM, that’s a bold and exciting creative choice. The Myers sequels do nothing remotely as interesting.
the original halloween is leagues better than the myers sequels/remakes. i'm not sure that other slasher sequels didn't also fell short of their original film though.
Well of course some fell short but he did say watered down, in which I think Myers lost popularity over time unlike some of his counterparts, especially from his grand debut. Jason went onto be indestructible and Freddy got funny but their popularity soared in the zeitgeist. Whereas Michael was becoming more and more irrelevant and weak sauce.
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Jason wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:25 pm

This is why it's generally the female as the lone survivor in the end. It makes the film more terrifying. It's harder to be scared for a grown man than a female.
i wouldn't mind seeing more final boys being panicked and fighting to survive. it can be done effectively.
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Reign in Blood wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:41 pm
zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:32 pm
Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:13 pm The Myers sequels totally water down everything in a way other slasher franchise sequels don’t. I think Season of the Witch is the only sequel whose existence I can justify, because the anthology series angle is cool as fuck. The others are unnecessary.

I view the first Halloween as completely independent of everything that comes later. Even with something like TCM 2 that totally subverts TCM, that’s a bold and exciting creative choice. The Myers sequels do nothing remotely as interesting.
the original halloween is leagues better than the myers sequels/remakes. i'm not sure that other slasher sequels didn't also fell short of their original film though.
Well of course some fell short but he did say watered down, in which I think Myers lost popularity over time unlike some of his counterparts, especially from his grand debut. Jason went onto be indestructible and Freddy got funny but their popularity soared in the zeitgeist. Whereas Michael was becoming more and more irrelevant and weak sauce.
maybe so. the akkads did shy away from committing to cool twists. maybe halloween is like the nickelback or puddle of mudd of slasher franchises. :P
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It's kinda like wrestling. Jason learned how to tap into that Goldberg shit, Freddy learned how to cut a fucking promo, and Michael just sat there with his dick in his hands getting pushed down the card by girls and Paul Rudd neither of which hit puberty yet. :P
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zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:42 pm
Jason wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:25 pm

This is why it's generally the female as the lone survivor in the end. It makes the film more terrifying. It's harder to be scared for a grown man than a female.
i wouldn't mind seeing more final boys being panicked and fighting to survive. it can be done effectively.
The audience will always be less sympathetic or scared for a male survivor at the end.
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Reign in Blood wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:45 pm It's kinda like wrestling. Jason learned how to tap into that Goldberg shit, Freddy learned how to cut a fucking promo, and Michael just sat there with his dick in his hands getting pushed down the card by girls and Paul Rudd neither of which hit puberty yet. :P
Jason = Kane
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Myers = Hurricane Helms :P
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Jason wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:46 pm
zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:42 pm
Jason wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:25 pm

This is why it's generally the female as the lone survivor in the end. It makes the film more terrifying. It's harder to be scared for a grown man than a female.
i wouldn't mind seeing more final boys being panicked and fighting to survive. it can be done effectively.
The audience will always be less sympathetic or scared for a male survivor at the end.
i didn't say otherwise. every six or seven nancy thompson's, you can have a jim halsey though.
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zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:32 pm
Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:13 pm The Myers sequels totally water down everything in a way other slasher franchise sequels don’t. I think Season of the Witch is the only sequel whose existence I can justify, because the anthology series angle is cool as fuck. The others are unnecessary.

I view the first Halloween as completely independent of everything that comes later. Even with something like TCM 2 that totally subverts TCM, that’s a bold and exciting creative choice. The Myers sequels do nothing remotely as interesting.
the original halloween is leagues better than the myers sequels/remakes. i'm not sure that other slasher sequels didn't also fell short of their original film though.
It’s fine to fall short. Most good sequels do. Just be interesting. Have a reason to exist.
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R.I.P. George Wendt
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Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:52 pm
zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:32 pm
Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:13 pm The Myers sequels totally water down everything in a way other slasher franchise sequels don’t. I think Season of the Witch is the only sequel whose existence I can justify, because the anthology series angle is cool as fuck. The others are unnecessary.

I view the first Halloween as completely independent of everything that comes later. Even with something like TCM 2 that totally subverts TCM, that’s a bold and exciting creative choice. The Myers sequels do nothing remotely as interesting.
the original halloween is leagues better than the myers sequels/remakes. i'm not sure that other slasher sequels didn't also fell short of their original film though.
It’s fine to fall short. Most good sequels do. Just be interesting. Have a reason to exist.
poor danielle harris. :P
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Tiggnutz wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 3:22 pm R.I.P. George Wendt
awww c'mon. :(
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zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 3:32 pm
Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:52 pm
zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:32 pm
Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:13 pm The Myers sequels totally water down everything in a way other slasher franchise sequels don’t. I think Season of the Witch is the only sequel whose existence I can justify, because the anthology series angle is cool as fuck. The others are unnecessary.

I view the first Halloween as completely independent of everything that comes later. Even with something like TCM 2 that totally subverts TCM, that’s a bold and exciting creative choice. The Myers sequels do nothing remotely as interesting.
the original halloween is leagues better than the myers sequels/remakes. i'm not sure that other slasher sequels didn't also fell short of their original film though.
It’s fine to fall short. Most good sequels do. Just be interesting. Have a reason to exist.
poor danielle harris. :P
I know 4 and 5 have their fans but to me those are the most pointless entries in the series.
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Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 4:22 pm
zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 3:32 pm
Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:52 pm
zombie wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:32 pm
Headhunter wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:13 pm The Myers sequels totally water down everything in a way other slasher franchise sequels don’t. I think Season of the Witch is the only sequel whose existence I can justify, because the anthology series angle is cool as fuck. The others are unnecessary.

I view the first Halloween as completely independent of everything that comes later. Even with something like TCM 2 that totally subverts TCM, that’s a bold and exciting creative choice. The Myers sequels do nothing remotely as interesting.
the original halloween is leagues better than the myers sequels/remakes. i'm not sure that other slasher sequels didn't also fell short of their original film though.
It’s fine to fall short. Most good sequels do. Just be interesting. Have a reason to exist.
poor danielle harris. :P
I know 4 and 5 have their fans but to me those are the most pointless entries in the series.
i like them as they are, but part 4 was undercut by playing safe after the ending. i'm sure there was also other messing around that hurt it too.
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Reign in Blood wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 2:45 pm It's kinda like wrestling. Jason learned how to tap into that Goldberg shit, Freddy learned how to cut a fucking promo, and Michael just sat there with his dick in his hands getting pushed down the card by girls and Paul Rudd neither of which hit puberty yet. :P
Just becomes so generic and loses any purpose. Very sad!
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The new Final Destination offers plenty of dumb fun. Nice send-off for Tony Todd.
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Cheers fittingly just hit on the sitcom wheel.
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Jason wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 7:16 pm Cheers fittingly just hit on the sitcom wheel.
You rigged it.
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Reign in Blood wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 7:40 pm
Jason wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 7:16 pm Cheers fittingly just hit on the sitcom wheel.
You rigged it.
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